Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 77517 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2002 14:48:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 77506 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2002 14:48:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 07:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Joshua Slive X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Wacky new docs style In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Andr� Malo wrote: > * Joshua Slive wrote: > > > Since nobody had any better ideas, here's a proposal for a new display > > format for the docs. It is stolen directly from > > http://style.tigris.org/ > > Uuh, I didn't want to post any pre-(alpha-)releases of our local work > here, but ok, that's my fault ;-) Feel free to post. More choice is always good. > > > Here are some examples. [...] > > some unsorted thoughts: > > the text size in all navigation elements is too small. > generally, font-size: small for normal text isn't really a good idea. > > the "related" stuff... ehm, the ugly fat double border should be turned > to a more decent one ;) > > IMHO, the white space on the left side drops too much of the effective > area. The style here is based closely on the tigris stuff, and if we are going to use that, then I won't want to make too many custom changes. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to take advantage of upgrades to the tigris stylesheets. (Some custom changes can be made by layering our own stylesheet overtop of the tigris one.) Yes the text size is perhaps slightly too small, and I have an updated tigris stylesheet that increases it just a bit. But unfortunately, the "small" size has become the standard on the web. If you look at major websites, you'll see that virtually all use somthing resembling for their default text font. The consequence is that people have adjusted their browser settings so that is the most comfortable font to read. Using anything bigger is too big for most people. There is a similar issue with the whitespace. Most people have their browsers open to a window size that assumes there will be a menu occupying some screan realestate. If you then write text across the whole screen, the lines become way too long to comfortably read. Our current doc style has uncomfortably long lines on a 800x600 browser, in my opinion. For the "Related" stuff, yes that is incredibly ugly. It is just a placeholder. I've never been happy with how those sections look, and I am open to suggestions. Joshua. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: docs-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help@httpd.apache.org