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From Rich Bowen <>
Subject Invalid user (fwd)
Date Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:19:47 GMT
What's up with these messages? I'm getting them every time I post,
although my messages are clearly going through.

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Subject: Compiling and installing apache
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I was today looking at and
found it to be ... how to put this nicely ... suboptimal. It contains
little nuggets like "Apache is designed to be configured and run from
the same set of directories where it is compiled." and "Copy or rename
these files to the names without the -dist." Was this written back in
the 1.2 days? I see that it's been worked on some lately, but I'm not
clear on what's been done to it.

I see that the 2.0 install docs have gotten a decent overhaul, and I
was wondering if there were still existing strong opinions around the
whole Configure/configure thing, or if similar things could be done to
the 1.3 install docs.

The reason I ask this is that I heard yet another comment today about
how Apache is hard to install, if all you have to go on is the
documentation. I found this a rather disturbing comment. I've also
heard more than once that installing mod_perl with Apache is
incredibly difficult, and I believed this for a rather long time also.
But it's really quite difficult.

Obviously, we need to do something about this, because if people can't
install it, then they can't use it

Can we get this put on the STATUS list? I suppose that there are
political issues involved, but I'm not particular sure that it matters
a whole lot. It's important that we remove impedences keeping people
from using it. And this installation doc, which is completely out of
sync with the INSTALL file in the source tarball, is not winning us
any friends.

And everyone said, "If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve -
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!"
 (The Jumblies, by Edward Lear)

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