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From Rodent of Unusual Size <Ken.C...@Golux.Com>
Subject Re: httpd-docs-2.0/manual/index.html.fr
Date Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:21:07 GMT
"William A. Rowe, Jr." wrote:
> 
> --Apache-- should treat such things as order-independent!  I
> concur 100%!

It does.

> The issue isn't -with- Apache, it's with how legible or usable
> our doc files are in the absense of Apache.

No, I don't believe that's the case.  You seem to think
that accessing the documents with the file: scheme is the issue;
it isn't.  That has never been a goal; it has *always* been
assumed that they'd be read through the auspices of a running
Apache server.

The issue is whether mod_negotiation is active or not.  In
the past, we always had a "foo.html", and any translations
were added as "foo.html.fr".  A request for "foo.html" would
therefore always find *something*, possibly the translated
file if that was preferred.

Now that we have discarded "foo.html" and replaced it with
"foo.html.en", mod_negotiation is *always* required in order
to find a file.  Okey, fine.  At least the base name is
something IOTTMCO, namely "foo.html".

Naming things "foo.fr.html" would require that all those
links be changed to just "foo", which IMHO violates the
Principle of Least Astonishment.  For one thing, it will
break hundreds of thousands of links already in existence
on the Web.  For another, people frequently tend to add
".html" unless the URL ends in a slash.  And finally, it
will collide with directories and other files with no suffix
at all.

In addition, "name.content-type.language.charset.encoding"
is a perfectly reasonable and rational ordering of metdata,
in most-to-least significance order.  What it is, how it's
presented, et cetera.

I think leaving things the way they are is best all round --
but when things are mailed, an extra rename should be taken
so that mail agents know how to type the attachment.  THAT'S
the only time I think we need to worry about the naming.
-- 
#ken    P-)}

Ken Coar                    <http://Golux.Com/coar/>
Apache Software Foundation  <http://www.apache.org/>
"Apache Server for Dummies" <http://Apache-Server.Com/>
"Apache Server Unleashed"   <http://ApacheUnleashed.Com/>

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