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From "Anthony Abby" <>
Subject RE: Case Studies
Date Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:24:27 GMT
Excellent point indeed.  I had just installed Apache 1.3 on a secondary web
server a little over a week ago and found it very easy to install, and seems
very flexible.  One of the reasons I contacted Michelle about participating
in her project last week after reading her post to this mailing list, was
because I was a little disappointed about the availability of non-commercial
documentation available for Apache.  To you all who are familiar with it, it
may seem adequate, but to a system administrator who's only worked with MS
applications, it is no where near adequate.  As we all know, MS does things
a bit differently than the rest of the world, and it was a bit of a culture
shock for me.

Still, I adopted Apache into my network because I wanted to broaden my
knowledge, and I had always heard that Apache was an excellent web platform.
I had less trouble installing and running Apache, than I did with IIS4!
Maybe trouble isn't the appropriate word, but it took less effort certainly
to run Apache initially.

I'm looking forward to working with Michelle on her project, and hope to
learn much from you all.  I have plans to install more Apache servers on NT4
systems, and have may install it on our Solaris servers as well.

I think you hit the mark right on the head with your comments regarding
tutorials.  That is indeed exactly what is needed.  I will be gone on
business for the next week or so, but when I return, I hope to begin fully
participating in the project.

Warmest Regards,
Anthony Abby
Operations Manager - A Plus Data Services

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of Jon MacKay
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 11:14 AM
> To: ''
> Subject: RE: Case Studies
> In my experience the Apache docs are good once you get to know them, but
> they require a bit of getting used to. We're in a difficult
> situation right
> now because we're all (I assume) fairly comfortable with the docs and the
> other resources available (ApacheWeek, for example). All of this
> time we've
> spent with Apache has probably made us blind to the problems a novice will
> face just looking at the docs for the first time.
> Maybe what we're talking about is a very general tutorial about Apache
> itself. How the server works, what modules are, what the components of CGI
> are and how they can work with Apache (mod_perl, etc.). What about putting
> this very general guide together so people who are just starting
> to look at
> various web servers don't have to really struggle to get a grasp on what
> Apache is and does.
> As for the more in-depth documents (ie. mod_rewrite) those are
> the sorts of
> things that should be tackled as they are starting to be
> understood... that
> way, you get all the answers to your newbie questions, and have the docs
> written before you forget the niggling details.
> Comments?
> Jon
> Jon MacKay
> > I would have to say, in my opinion, that the Apache Docs are
> > great 'starter' guides in general but DO NOT cover things at a
> > length that I am looking for - especially when it comes to
> > things like some of the modules - mod_rewrite, for example.
> >
> > Also, at least in my local area, the people I've discuss things
> > similar to this with have found that what they 'think' about
> > how things happen in Unix, etc, are not really the way things
> > work in Unix, etc.  So some of the confusion when it comes
> > to WWW servers, etc is that they must unlearn what they have
> > learned and start thinking in a wider scope.
> >
> > Thx for hearing out my 2 Cents :]
> > -Sneex-
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Bill Jones  |  904/632-3089  |
> >
> > Contrary to the general lack of support within 'Open Source' coding -
> > I support what I write...  Others haven't, can't, or won't...

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