Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172F7200C36 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:53:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 11D8E160B79; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 32F9D160B67 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 49618 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2017 19:53:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 49606 invoked by uid 99); 10 Mar 2017 19:53:20 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B313A18E98E for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.78 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.78 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=tregar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cVe_xrFYjMUe for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-f196.google.com (mail-qk0-f196.google.com [209.85.220.196]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 6794F60DFC for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f196.google.com with SMTP id v125so29660773qkh.1 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:53:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tregar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=o9oWwuNPsEvYSIunX7Y+BqxYm6GcXK7GankH7+ueNI4=; b=1KsWP4aHrYt88vqeWotLdSXOW3GnFm1k7r2SKZLvNPMXapQ9HDnowQvAklHAy+CUN1 9Z6HJza2o2hhlf2HxjEscZUlS+exskCte+cK/l0PwnkhRYaFxo5oqrER3+94NEuNsmW5 JIk9F1/mi5b9/RwiGEAjk0U/B4tPnv5/foDy63bJ8E2xtyfAwOUPnuqjPmtcggWRvbBZ +E6VEP+i0cb0Vm129WDSY0uxLw7ItMuyylBDo5RXCimQxgLNpByEiamUAgn04byFjzav 48nHzoEmBS6cX6aA+oTWNXFFk34Ie85dOedkoqbdoXgeQAf8s1a6OwEemDg0xPZajrTu hleQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=o9oWwuNPsEvYSIunX7Y+BqxYm6GcXK7GankH7+ueNI4=; b=uVUyyCwRLM8BRMEtftP3fHzZQcKfmyCf+LBsM1cBpR/T8narIwEJS3vDv/llc8QYWe E4CL+kZqGHcGTIV2CLFOKioG9/nOlo21+DHJBvuqwmQx3V0GF/2yUJ4cq8MZxfeFUAPD fMqvWExwtHmiUsvYRY4erz1VonOhzKU4yavhnhcrcBqnrMfvBFW8noIelmgKcQSEgwAs s/UoFPeFi83sxe1UF1wdNT7p6eWkSnosSwAnZpQZ3rgimqMVue38A5OWD1KKP36xlh6O s6spiMjYvCLVcMesx5j6BDdxZv2nNhgxXjK05V9XMwyaADu85OwsoGMyc1fZUSVcu2ps clag== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lymtYUqnPs9LEE4OmwEmkJYJr5OYefSLrOuE6iozFHJpeyrkyEEd3+d2QdX/yu69YO9xs3W1cpIiosCw== X-Received: by 10.55.103.10 with SMTP id b10mr20168418qkc.207.1489175596415; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:53:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.29.54 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:52:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3035402.NsoEzyaVhg@k> From: Sam Tregar Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:52:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems using Apache::Test on Debian (and Ubuntu) To: Apache HTTP Server Development List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1148513c6ee716054a65b618 archived-at: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:53:22 -0000 --001a1148513c6ee716054a65b618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks - it wasn't clear to me which comments earlier were from maintainers and which from interested bystanders. No patch will ever be universally loved, so I thought I'd try to figure out which changes needed to be made. Sam On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:26 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Sam Tregar wrote: > > I'm not totally clear on who's maintaining Apache::Test. > > > > If not, what changes would you need to take it? > > Refer back to my earlier comments. There is very little chance that any > specific vendor deviations will be accommodated at the ASF. Once broken > without community consensus, the vendor owns their choices. That said... > > There's a very good chance that making variable lookup more abstract > in a way that allows all builders to inform Apache::Test and all other > consumers of specific resources (through apachectl, apxs and similar) > will be readily accepted. Please look at Eric's answer for a next step. > > In answer to your root question, Apache::Test is under the perl.apache.org > PMC's domain. > --001a1148513c6ee716054a65b618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks - it wasn't clear to me which comments earlier = were from maintainers and which from interested bystanders.=C2=A0 No patch = will ever be universally loved, so I thought I'd try to figure out whic= h changes needed to be made.

Sam


On Thu, Mar 9,= 2017 at 2:26 PM, William A Rowe Jr <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> = wrote:
On Thu, Mar 9, 20= 17 at 3:23 PM, Sam Tregar <sam@tregar.= com> wrote:
> I'm not totally clear on who's maintaining Apache::Test.
>
> If not, what changes would you need to take it= ?

Refer back to my earlier comments. There is very little chance that = any
specific vendor deviations will be accommodated at the ASF. Once broken
without community consensus, the vendor owns their choices. That said...
There's a very good chance that making variable lookup more abstract in a way that allows all builders to inform Apache::Test and all other
consumers of specific resources (through apachectl, apxs and similar)
will be readily accepted. Please look at Eric's answer for a next step.=

In answer to your root question, Apache::Test is under the perl.apache.org=
PMC's domain.

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