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From Yann Ylavic <>
Subject Re: ap_init_rng / apr_random question
Date Wed, 28 Oct 2015 00:00:04 GMT
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Eric Covener <> wrote:
> IIUC, it takes something like 32k of /dev/random to initialize apr_random.
> (32*32*32)
> But ap_init_rng() does this with ~4000 8-byte reads of /dev/random.
> I am working on a platform where access to the crypto facility
> underneath /dev/random is sometimes audited.  Does anyone have any
> hints about whether larger reads from /dev/random would be better
> elsewhere? Or if the startup requirement is really this high for data
> from /dev/random?

AFAICT, /dev/urandom itself only requires 256 bits (32 bytes) of
(secret) entropy to be secure (cryptographically strong), so I don't
think more would be needed for httpd (or APR).
It seems to me that asking for more than 32 bytes of random bytes by
something like a minute is not very sound (both for the requester AND
the "others"), so IMHO we should really take that into consideration.

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