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From Jeff Trawick <>
Subject Re: commercial support
Date Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:14:48 GMT
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Mark Blackman <> wrote:

> Is Apache 2.4 really just as fast as nginx for response times for an
> arbitrary number of concurrent connections?
> Apache is great and it’s now so mature that most enterprises are very
> comfortable with it, but where nginx started with a very simple premise and
> have kept the scope restricted.
> For me, Apache is a Swiss army knife that has a solution for nearly every
> use case and nginx is more like a surgeon’s scalpel, best of breed in that
> domain (maximal concurrent connections for minimum resource cost with
> minimum feature set), but unhelpful in other places.

The question is hard to answer satisfactorily.  You have to pick a workload
that you are familiar with and try it with both (where httpd is 2.4 with
Event MPM).  httpd is faster at some, and I'm sure that nginx is faster at

Your characterization of httpd and nginx is a lot more nuanced than the
assumptions of a lot of people.  httpd is often characterized as big and
slow based on old reality and the continued use of it in old ways, and
because of that it is passed over in a lot of cases where it is the better
overall solution.

> Cheers,
> Mark
> > On 20 Nov 2014, at 22:00, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
> >
> > It's a shame that there isn't a company like Covalent
> > around anymore that focuses on the Apache httpd web-server.
> > shows kinda clearly that having a motivated
> > company behind a web-server helps grab market share and
> > market awareness (they can continue to beat the drum about
> > how fast and reliable they are, when so many benchmarks
> > lately show that 2.4 is just as fast if not faster in
> > actual response time, but we have limited ability to
> > do that, and most reporters see us as Old "news" and
> > nginx as the new hotness anyway)...
> >
> > So who wants to get together and create a company
> > around httpd? :)
> >
> > Honestly though, how much of the uptake in nginx
> > do people think is actually due to nginx being "better"
> > or the "best" choice, and how much do you think is
> > due simply because it's *seen* as better or that we
> > are seen as old and tired?
> >
> > This is our 20year anniversary... It would be cool
> > to use that to remind people! :)

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