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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:52:16 -0500
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon talk topic suggestions
From: Jeff Trawick <trawick@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Kean Johnston <kean.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 1/21/2014 7:46 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>> * FCGI
>>
> If anyone plans of giving a talk about FCGI please let me know. I can't
> attend but have some input (and a new module I am almost done with) that
> may be useful.


Suggestion: Write a blog post with your thoughts and a description of your
in-progress module, then point to it here.

It is very possible that multiple people have submitted a proposal for a
FastCGI talk.  (I have.)  There is a lot to cover potentially, and an
attempt to coordinate coverage might rightfully result in two approved
talks (subject to available slots and other proposals).  But people are
busy and talk submission is mostly a shot in the dark.

I've thought about AC2014 FastCGI coverage requirements in terms of deltas
from one I gave a few years ago (
http://people.apache.org/~trawick/AC2010-FastCGI.pdf).

(off the top of my head)

* definitely need to keep coverage of fcgid config challenges
* mod_proxy_fcgi needs detailed coverage (proxy config and best practices
for process management)
* implications of latest PHP FastCGI implementation
* deploying apps that are written to higher level programming interfaces
(e.g., WSGI) -- when/how to use FastCGI vs. other mechanisms (examples of
these higher level interfaces in different dynamic languages and some
deployment possibilities are covered at
http://people.apache.org/~trawick/AC2012EU-Apps.pdf)
* a couple of small tangents -- not much time, but just to provide exposure
** mod_authnz_fcgi - as motivation, provide an interesting example for
using this to move complex aaa out of httpd processes (yea!)
** mod_fastcgi - actually works with 2.4 but you need to know where to find
the big patch that handles most 2.4 stuff + a few smaller patches that
improve 2.4 compat and fix some other aggravations

I could easily see a broad coverage talk that goes no deeper than basic
configuration and one that covers proxy_fcgi and fcgid issues and
configuration in a fair amount of detail.  (herding cats?)


>
>
> Kean
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Kean Johnston <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:kean.johnston@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kean.johnston@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">On 1/21/2014 7:46 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
* FCGI<br>
</blockquote>
If anyone plans of giving a talk about FCGI please let me know. I can&#39;t=
 attend but have some input (and a new module I am almost done with) that m=
ay be useful.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Suggestion: Write a blog post=
 with your thoughts and a description of your in-progress module, then poin=
t to it here.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is very possible that multiple people have submitted=
 a proposal for a FastCGI talk. =A0(I have.) =A0There is a lot to cover pot=
entially, and an attempt to coordinate coverage might rightfully result in =
two approved talks (subject to available slots and other proposals). =A0But=
 people are busy and talk submission is mostly a shot in the dark.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve thought about AC2014 FastCGI coverage requirem=
ents in terms of deltas from one I gave a few years ago (<a href=3D"http://=
people.apache.org/~trawick/AC2010-FastCGI.pdf">http://people.apache.org/~tr=
awick/AC2010-FastCGI.pdf</a>).</div>
<div><br></div><div>(off the top of my head)</div><div><br></div><div>* def=
initely need to keep coverage of fcgid config challenges</div><div>* mod_pr=
oxy_fcgi needs detailed coverage (proxy config and best practices for proce=
ss management)</div>
<div>* implications of latest PHP FastCGI implementation</div><div>* deploy=
ing apps that are written to higher level programming interfaces (e.g., WSG=
I) -- when/how to use FastCGI vs. other mechanisms (examples of these highe=
r level interfaces in different dynamic languages and some deployment possi=
bilities are covered at <a href=3D"http://people.apache.org/~trawick/AC2012=
EU-Apps.pdf">http://people.apache.org/~trawick/AC2012EU-Apps.pdf</a>)</div>
<div>* a couple of small tangents -- not much time, but just to provide exp=
osure</div><div>** mod_authnz_fcgi - as motivation, provide an interesting =
example for using this to move complex aaa out of httpd processes (yea!)</d=
iv>
<div>** mod_fastcgi - actually works with 2.4 but you need to know where to=
 find the big patch that handles most 2.4 stuff + a few smaller patches tha=
t improve 2.4 compat and fix some other aggravations</div><div><br></div>
<div>I could easily see a broad coverage talk that goes no deeper than basi=
c configuration and one that covers proxy_fcgi and fcgid issues and configu=
ration in a fair amount of detail. =A0(herding cats?)</div><div><br></div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left=
-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br=
>
<br>
Kean<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b=
r>Born in Roswell... married an alien...<br><a href=3D"http://emptyhammock.=
com/" target=3D"_blank">http://emptyhammock.com/</a><br>
</div></div>

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