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From Graham Leggett <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] The 'RM' Baton
Date Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:11:58 GMT
On 10 Jul 2013, at 8:41 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. <> wrote:

> A major problem which has occurred repeatedly, since the rapid pace of
> release candidates in the 2.0 series, is that the RM baton has been
> announced and dropped on the ground for weeks, if not many months.  The
> prime directive of open source at the ASF is to release early and to
> release often, and the Apache HTTP Project is failing that directive.
> Refer to on our project's 
> RM rights and responsibilities.  Anyone, at any time, can propose
> a release candidate.  No individual should ever be able to hijack 
> the project with the promise to do something they can't/won't actually
> accomplish.  
> While we all get busy, and derailed by nice-to-have additions, the
> activity 10:59 and 11:01 EDT Tuesday is a prime example of where the
> desire to release the code conflicts with the desire to include even
> more changes.  The pattern must be broken if we are to release code
> to the public often and early,

Can you explain why the pattern needs to be broken?

An imminent release has the effect of incentivising people to get their changes in, it is
normal. If someone else wants a release, nothing stops them from politely asking the group
whether they can perform the release themselves.

> which brings us to a concrete proposal...
> Proposed: An RM intent-to-tag announcement is valid for 10 days.  If
> no prospective release has been tagged in those 10 days, the 'baton'
> has been dropped, the RM's intent is nullified, and any committer is
> encouraged to pick up that baton and proceed to tag a candidate for
> release.
>  +/-1
>  [  ]  An intent-to-tag is valid for only 10 days

-1: We don't need more process, another RM can step up at any time.


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