Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 685A9D690 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17229 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jul 2012 17:48:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 17168 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jul 2012 17:48:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 17159 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jul 2012 17:48:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:48:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of trawick@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.173] (HELO mail-vc0-f173.google.com) (209.85.220.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:48:54 +0000 Received: by vcbfl15 with SMTP id fl15so4284994vcb.18 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OFfjeiFc5PhfFy+SJfFVrc7+EbAZz/Ps3JOi3KaCAHw=; b=UJjX2u/nuWUpiKysRWBJrQdnOfr0XpLAKaW7kah2uYvvIjPu9B/kX+RHB5ViFd0D6n y3uBCuiK28s2Ju00GqOnPdNvjUn+U7PMb7UdqOL0Ym7xAvpsZnVyRaMvCyiKNhWUQiiS Nzay75nLQGX4IqYz6R8p5QWiEXdOAXx6PkzrrRY0aiL4MJHAwcvbHHFt345MyfSDl6Lf CHZh6+HdsPW5DTYug+3R/+FTdKesrm31pvsdb8/sU+TdY/bGt6+4iQqI2EG2JBPIBGuK W3iCe0zqBn0QqiSjhRQJdCnjqsSuj6Q2XjsN7rXdOkekBpF5LgYXn18OT7gvFcHGjT7L L8Nw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.240.78 with SMTP id kz14mr5216318vcb.24.1342806513636; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.24.142 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120720162615.GB2227@samfundet.no> References: <7FEA156C-A84E-4D74-9F6A-86862298B3F1@jellybaby.net> <20120720162615.GB2227@samfundet.no> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:48:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mpm-itk and upstream Apache, once again From: Jeff Trawick To: dev@httpd.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 06:54:56PM +0100, Tim Bannister wrote: >> I think there's a case for leaving itk separate, a bit like mod_fcgid. It >> is a bit unusual and troubleshooting won't be straightforward. > > Why would you keep mpm-itk separate but mod_privileges not? IMO it is not a very relevant question given the big picture: * Most modules written for httpd are not bundled with the server or otherwise hosted/developed at the ASF. * mod_privileges is for a minority server operating system and is not used extensively even there. * You won't find much rhyme or reason to why some modules are bundled and some are not other than whether or the author has commit access, and even then there isn't much consistency. As far as mpm-itk: A few hooks can be added to httpd core so that it can be enabled just like other modules*, whether or not anyone here cares about the implementation details. *Of course that isn't really true of the popular 2.2.x branch, but I don't think it is realistic to hope that mpm-itk would ever make it to 2.2.x anyway. By the way, did any other httpd-ers have a look at those patches and have suggestions for what hooks could be added?