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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: Inspiration for mod_lua
Date Fri, 31 Dec 2010 02:09:32 GMT
----- Original Message ----

> From: William A. Rowe Jr. <>
> To:
> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 8:48:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Inspiration for mod_lua
> On 12/30/2010 6:52 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > 
> > Blech.  The  upside to mod_perl is that you get the rest of the server for
> >  free.  mod_fcgid (or even mod_wsgi) is the same old crappy  impoverished
> > CGI interface.
> Hmmm, fork for exec is that  insignificant?  Not according to any data I've 
> I agree  mod_perl has some killer perks, but really hoping that mod_lua will
> replace a  good number of those special cases.  As far as handlers/endpoints,
> fcgid  significantly displaces CGI in performance, although yes, it's 
> in  its limitations.

I wasn't referring to performance, but *nothing* other than the main websites
would be impacted performance wise if they were all running mod_perl + prefork.
I was referring to the fact that mod_perl exposes pretty much the entire 
to perl, even though only a small number of people are able to use that power
effectively.  Most people nowadays want a fully-boxed framework like rails.

I mean take the CMS I just wrote with mod_perl.  It's 2K LOC, uses a custom
map_to_storage handler, and defers a good chunk of its (sub)requests to httpd
for things like autoindex and negotiation and plain-old file serving, and 
a user's basic auth creds to the subversion server.  That isn't remotely 
with mod_fcgi, I'd have to reimplement all that functionality my app, which is
a waste.


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