Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 72025 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2010 13:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2010 13:36:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 57355 invoked by uid 500); 22 Oct 2010 13:36:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 56862 invoked by uid 500); 22 Oct 2010 13:36:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 56847 invoked by uid 99); 22 Oct 2010 13:36:52 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:36:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: 76.96.62.56 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.62.56] (HELO qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.56) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:36:42 +0000 Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Mnnq1f0040xGWP856pcNZW; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:36:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.10] ([69.251.84.64]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MpcM1f00g1PGofZ3YpcN8X; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:36:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: Removing Limit and LimitExcept From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: <4CC15FC1.4010400@rowe-clan.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:36:20 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20101016095921.AC89123888FD@eris.apache.org> <201010192146.28217.sf@sfritsch.de> <201010192232.48996.sf@sfritsch.de> <99EA83DCDE961346AFA9B5EC33FEC08B04EBAD41@VF-MBX11.internal.vodafone.com> <1430849B-FE4C-46F1-828D-D52DD102A68F@jaguNET.com> <4CC08379.5080303@rowe-clan.net> <11A69348-C01F-4E9B-A79B-FE3644D63AAD@gbiv.com> <4CC15FC1.4010400@rowe-clan.net> To: dev@httpd.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Oct 22, 2010, at 5:56 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 10/21/2010 8:49 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> >> So I am currently -1 on the whole idea. I see no need to deprecate >> Limit and LimitExcept. I see considerable harm in removing them >> entirely. I see no harm in introducing new directives that will do >> similar functionality in a better way, documenting those directives >> as the preferred alternative, and modifying our configs accordingly. > > I expected nothing less from you, Lars, Jim and others who would have > approved this broken feature in the first place. > You mean from people who not only develop but also run it and have comprehension regarding the impact of such extensive config changes for a 2.2->2.4 upgrade, right? Thanks. I think, as Roy says, allowing for Limit/LimitExcept, noting that it is deprecated, and creating a new set of directives that allow people to use the "new method", is a much friendlier approach for our users.