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From Sergey Chernyshev <sergey.chernys...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Fast by default
Date Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:30:08 GMT
>
> It's not 'broken'.
> Why change it?
>

Please don't think that old configurations and practices are not broken -
web sites are loading too slow for pipes and web-server power that we have.

And situation is getting worse year after year - here's analysis by Patrick
Meanan of WebPageTest.org's one year history:
http://blog.patrickmeenan.com/2010/05/are-pages-getting-faster.html

            Sergey



>
> Kevin Kiley
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
> To: dev@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 7:40 am
> Subject: Re: Fast by default
>
>  Geez, Eric. No wonder people don't want to contribute to httpd, when they
> run into an attitude like yours. That dismissiveness makes me embarressed
> for our community.
> There is zero reason for us to avoid putting deflate into the default
> configuration.
> It is also very arguable that we should leave it off. I think others have
> argued well to enable it by default, while you've simply dismissed them with
> your holier-than-thou attitude and lack of any solid rationale.
> -g
>
> On May 31, 2010 8:06 PM, "Eric Covener" <covener@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Bryan McQuade <bmcquade@google.com>
> wrote:
> > I propose providing an...
> An additional httpd.conf doesn't sound valuable to me.  What slice of
> non-savvy users would scrutinize an alternate config file, can replace
> the config file of their webserver, isn't using a webserver packaged
> by their OS, and wouldn't have just gotten the same information today
> from the manual and 400,000 other websites?
>
> There's currently no <ifModule> bloat in the default conf, but you're
> welcome to submit a patch that adds one for deflate or expires (latter
> seems more unwise to me). See the "supplemental configuration" section
> of the generated config.
>
> This doesn't address mass-vhost companies failing to allow deflate
> because it's not in the no-args HTTPD ./configure , which sounds
> far-fetched to me.  I can't recall a users@ or #httpd user implying
> being subjected to such a thing with their own build or with cheap
> hosting.
>
> --
>  Eric Covener
> covener@gmail.com
>
>

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