Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 35065 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2010 12:55:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2010 12:55:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17941 invoked by uid 500); 28 Apr 2010 12:55:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 17886 invoked by uid 500); 28 Apr 2010 12:55:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 17878 invoked by uid 99); 28 Apr 2010 12:55:56 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:55:56 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of trawick@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.45 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.45] (HELO mail-gw0-f45.google.com) (74.125.83.45) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:55:51 +0000 Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1959433gwb.18 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mvv7kOWfLE0+XBxGA0VQ8wBgxqPCUVpSZV2djQopvKc=; b=pFLzQeVA2LDnvwHQCUbQ/pMrzsPBuWHJWalR6fsGwBL2UIOkfVWGa5dI+rT5qXV8XE U8ShinbLbJ0igj7iwB6Z5KMkk46eKzaxO1dOKMRja/53KceJjseMSiNVlq1wJ+llQT+L b7Wpc/3pzXxGeg9S+gVqUpo8Cw6jfYO7tEpNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pGTtS2AXI1WzFgn7QMx91uS30Lfx/Hb7tRtoU63vfpSMaeErn0ZB/xksMQ4t86Zdu2 jO4clkhdiEs3zSLgl3n8hZwV0lteWMPmWqnlDKXzc6J/4eYSC4jI+Izs+Rb+9+4KZhSD 1KvdoqNvsiRhdTYws/37kEQ3yBFW7HoGVgjTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.126.10 with SMTP id d10mr3256331ann.196.1272459330173; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.191.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:55:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenBSD & the Apache license problem. Why? From: Jeff Trawick To: dev@httpd.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Tasos Andras wrote: > I really wonder why you Apache guys did this: > > A news from 2004: > > http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/07/1621254 > > It is 2010 now, and we're still on Apache 1.3.29. What was that license problem? With all due respect, do some research yourself. If you can't find documentation on the web of exactly why OpenBSD rejected the Apache license change, go ask there. We don't own that problem. > Let OpenBSD dev guys edit/improve/modify it however they like, please. > (Well, unless they won't change the 'Apache' httpd header) > They are great at security. That will be good for Apache, too. They're > also very well-respected. We all know that. > > Freedom? Free? If "free", then make it "free for everyone, every > community, every people" please. Otherwise it is not "free" anymore. Did you read our license? > Oh, by the way, what was your answer for: > "There is a number of serious security problems in apache that we have > fixed, and that have been offered them back, and they refused." > @ > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=108655793112947&w=2 > > May i know what did you refuse and why did you refuse? I guess a diff from the original Apache 1.3.29 to what OpenBSD uses today would be instructive.