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From Garrett Serack <>
Subject RE: Windows Server 2008 Application Compatibility Lab Invitation
Date Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:25:03 GMT
MSBuild and VCBuild *are* command line apps. They are specifically
Made to be used in automated builds.

The difference is, that the syntax is not like make.


-----Original Message-----
From: jean-frederic clere []
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Windows Server 2008 Application Compatibility Lab Invitation

Garrett Serack wrote:
> This is certainly something we can examine during the appcompat lab.
> There is still tools for building from the command line, (MSBuild,
> VCBuild), but they aren’t much like make... more like Ant.

I am always trying to use NMake on those platforms.
Command line tools are very interesting because they can be use in
scripts that are used in automated builds.



> G
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Issac Goldstand []
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Windows Server 2008 Application Compatibility Lab Invitation
> This is probably all the way at the bottom of your priority list, but I
> figure it can't hurt to mention - what about a decent command line build
> solution; IIRC, one of the (very minor) reasons we're still with VC6 is
> the ability to create a Makefile, which recent VS suites no longer
> support...
>   Issac
> William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>> I'm planning to attend to address issues on several fronts, and I hear
>> some PHP folks will make it as well.  It might be a really good chance
>> to start digging deeper into the interop issues with MSVCR runtimes,
>> so if there is a modperl dev or two who are interested, I'd love to
>> spend some of this time working on those specifics.
>> Bill
>> Garrett Serack wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> My name is Garrett Serack, and I am the Community Program Manager in
>>> the Open
>>> Source Software Labs here at Microsoft.
>>> I would like to extend an official invitation to the Apache Software
>>> Foundation
>>> to participate in the Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Compatibility
>>> Labs here
>>> in Redmond. The Compatibility lab is scheduled for
>>>    Monday February 25 2008 through Wednesday February 28 2008.
>>> (the lab is actually booked thru Thurs the 29th, so an extra day is
>>> possible)
>>> -----------
>>> The Windows Server 2008 Application Compatibility Lab is an event
>>> where we
>>> invite companies to bring their applications into our lab, and have the
>>> opportunity to perform compatibility testing with Windows Server
>>> 2008. In
>>> addition to gaining insight into Windows Server 2008, this also includes
>>> unprecedented access to various product groups (developers,
>>> architects and PMs)
>>> inside of Microsoft, who can lend their assistance, give technical
>>> information
>>> and answer design questions you may have.
>>> Normally, we request companies send 3-4 attendees, and we usually
>>> have 3-4
>>> companies in the lab in a given week. Given the ASF's size and
>>> breadth, we've
>>> reserved the entire lab for the week for the Apache Foundation, and
>>> we'd like
>>> to see somewhere in the range of 15-18 people from a wide variety of
>>> projects
>>> attend.
>>> ----------------
>>> We would be very interested in having several people from the Tomcat,
>>> HTTPD and
>>> Axis groups attend.  Other projects including APR, Apache C++
>>> Standard Library
>>> project, Harmony, and Maven.NET also come to mind.  Any project that
>>> is impacted
>>> by the release of Windows 2008, or is looking to solve
>>> Windows-specific project
>>> issues, may profit from this opportunity.
>>> We are interested in having each project who deals with Microsoft
>>> Windows
>>> compatibility or portability to bring small contingent of 1 or 2
>>> developers to
>>> the table, so please chat within your own PMC or even your dev@ list
>>> first to
>>> determine who is most interested in attending this camp on behalf of
>>> your
>>> project.  Space is constrained, and we'd like to ensure that specific
>>> attention
>>> can be given to projects that need it.
>>> ----------------
>>> The cost of the event itself is being handled by our team (the Open
>>> Source
>>> Software Lab), all you have to do is actually get here.  Some travel
>>> assistance
>>> by Microsoft will be available (hotel/airfare), *if* your employer can't
>>> pick up such costs.  As my budget is limited, how much travel
>>> assistance we can
>>> provide is linked to how many need to avail themselves of it.  If you
>>> don't
>>> need a subsidy, hotels can still be booked at MS's corp rate at most
>>> nearby,
>>> saving some money.
>>> --------------------
>>> To track interest, please register for this event in the subversion file
>>> and send me an email with the following information:
>>>    Full Name:
>>>    Street Address:
>>>    Phone Number:
>>>    Email Address:
>>>    ASF Projects Involved in:
>>>    Travel Assistance Required: (full/part/none)
>>>    Product Groups you wish to get access to:
>>>    Any technical aspects you'd like to address:
>>> -------
>>> You might be interested in the "political" rational of why we value
>>> this chance
>>> to meet some of the ASF developers and help them work through Windows
>>> compatibility issues. You can see Sam Ramji's blog entry about why we
>>> asked
>>> Mozilla out:
>>> Garrett Serack | Open Source Community Lead | Microsoft Corporation
>>> Office:(425)706-7939
>>> email/messenger:
>>> blog:

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