Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89087 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2007 23:39:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2007 23:39:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 84159 invoked by uid 500); 27 Sep 2007 23:39:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 84093 invoked by uid 500); 27 Sep 2007 23:39:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 84081 invoked by uid 99); 27 Sep 2007 23:39:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:39:44 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of erik@codefaktor.de designates 62.75.252.62 as permitted sender) Received: from [62.75.252.62] (HELO mail.eatc.de) (62.75.252.62) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:42:06 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.3] (p4FD2DBB9.dip.t-dialin.net [79.210.219.185]) by mail.eatc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB213C42 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:39:22 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <46FC3CAF.1030908@rowe-clan.net> References: <46FA8DEA.8030204@rowe-clan.net> <004601c80070$3e576070$0100a8c0@mother> <46FAB60F.9030906@rowe-clan.net> <039901c8007f$90690f30$2128c23e@mother> <46FAEFBD.8010903@rowe-clan.net> <2BA1141C-AFD8-4936-85B8-0A17E8CDD4B3@codefaktor.de> <46FC3CAF.1030908@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Erik Abele Subject: Re: 2.2.7 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:39:22 +0200 To: dev@httpd.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 28.09.2007, at 01:28, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Erik Abele wrote: >> >> Sure, we all have to pay our bills but you're overlooking a >> difference: >> Nick just replied to an inquiry offering his (and others >> services); he >> doesn't advertise any revenue-generating site after every release >> etc. >> etc... ;-0 > > Nick's comment didn't even mention he does this exclusively, he > pointed > out that there are a number of devs or organizations who can > provide such > services, and was *probably* letting the user know that the scope > of their > troubles was not going to elicit them enough purely voulenteer help. Exactly! >> Again, Steffens contributions would be very welcomed *here* if this >> whole AL thing were just not that misleading - hey, with some >> effort he >> could e.g. help out constructively by building these binaries in a >> transparent and documented way *here* and we could even distribute >> them >> from apache.org/dist (plus mirrors) to help the win community even >> more! > > I want to be sure folks understand that the relabeling that Steffan > and > the AL team have already done went a long way to satisfying almost any > of the project's possible concerns; the Feather is gone, > disclaimers are > posted. W.r.t. actually creating or distributing RC's, Colm's points > went a long way to convince me they can be helpful --- that is if > and only > if the feedback gets back to where it might be useful to improving > the s/w. Absolutely. > Also note we only post binaries from committers; we can't/won't elicit > or host them for add'l third parties. So for example, any committer > is welcome to post updated sun .pkg's. But we wouldn't accept those > from Sun. The origin of all of the files under > http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ > is from an Apache httpd project committer, each of whom is bound to > a CLA > (to resolve any possible IP/trust issues.) Yep, maybe my post was misleading; with "some effort" I actually meant "becoming a committer"... :) Cheers, Erik