Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 53117 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2007 08:43:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Aug 2007 08:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 83582 invoked by uid 500); 19 Aug 2007 08:43:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 83531 invoked by uid 500); 19 Aug 2007 08:43:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 83520 invoked by uid 99); 19 Aug 2007 08:43:48 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:43:48 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of info@apachelounge.com designates 213.46.255.22 as permitted sender) Received: from [213.46.255.22] (HELO viefep17-int.chello.at) (213.46.255.22) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:44:12 +0000 Received: from land10web.com ([62.194.40.33]) by viefep17-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070819084322.GZKE25918.viefep17-int.chello.at@land10web.com> for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:43:22 +0200 Received: from mother (unverified [62.194.40.33]) by land10web.com (Land10 mail) with ESMTP id 1247-1959671 for multiple; Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:43:17 +0200 Message-ID: <005d01c7e23c$fce83520$2128c23e@mother> From: "Steffen" To: , References: <46C76E04.1040907@rowe-clan.net> <001e01c7e1eb$312968b0$2128c23e@mother> <46C78135.9020301@rowe-clan.net> <000801c7e1f1$217656c0$2128c23e@mother> <46C78832.1070400@beamartyr.net> <46C7A10A.9030209@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:39:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > The angst over Steffen's build sounds a bit more territorial than legal > to me. Just my 2c worth... Tom, indeed that is my feeling : territorial. There is more, see my next post about the Apache Feather I have to remove. Steffen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Donovan" To: Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 03:46 Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > > doesn't belong on any external site. Since it's not an ASF release, > > *you* are absorbing all the liability and risk that any released ASF > > package would carry. It's an apachelounge release, so you would > > personally answer to any IP issues. Not smart. > > Issac Goldstand wrote: > > Steffen, > > I really don't see anything threatening by what Bill said. On the > ... > > posting an RC without enough bells, whistles or warning lights > > (regardless of how many notices you did put up about it being a RC and > > not a release; they'll say it's a binary and who's looking, or > > Maybe not threatening - but it is an eye-opener for some of us that the > Apache2 license protects "released" versions of Apache differently. > > My (possibly faulty) understanding was that the whole "Redistribution" > and "Disclaimer of Warranty" parts applied to *any* Apache software - > even if it was built from today's bug-ridden head revision of the trunk, > and that it was a solid and reliable protection from just the scenario > you describe. > > The "you-must-build-it-yourself-from-source" rule to test a release > candidate probably isn't too much bother for Unix users, but many > Windows users look to a small number of "Windows builders" to build a RC > like Steffen's VC8 build so they can test what they expect to put into > production once the version is released (*if* it is released of course!) > > I am certainly one of these. > > The likelihood that Apache Lounge members would mistake Steffen's 2.2.5 > build for a released version is no greater than all the many other > situations where unreleased versions of open-source software are > available. Perhaps a first-time hobbyist experimenter might make this > mistake, but certainly not any professional admins. > > The angst over Steffen's build sounds a bit more territorial than legal > to me. Just my 2c worth... > > -tom- >