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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: Goodbye
Date Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:24:49 GMT
Steffen wrote:
> The admonishment not to use the feather or the "Apache" name resembles  the 
> behavior of the very worst big-software corporations - and a  reminder that 
> ASF is after all "... a corporation registered in  Delaware, United 
> States..." - not a fellowship of web server  administrators, developers, and 
> enthusiasts.  It is a sober reminder to  us all that caution is needed when 
> dealing with Apache software as with  any other software, lest we forget 
> that httpd has become "their product"  vs. "our web server".

That is really unfair, I think... Notwithstanding the fact whether
or not this issue could have been handled better, are you
really suggesting that the ASF seeking to protect its name,
reputation, brand and trademarks are somehow Not Good? The ASF
and the user and developer community have worked long and hard
in making the name Apache *mean something*. This reputation
was hard yet well earned. The ASF exists to allow the projects
to continue doing what they do, and doing it well, without having
to worry about such troublesome but real world issues such as
trademarks and things like that... The Apache brand carries a
lot of weight and respect, and it would be a serious disservice
to the users and developers to not protect that brand.

No matter what you may be implying, the ASF does not control
the Apache web server project (httpd) or any other project:
the PMCs and the community do that. It is, and always will remain
"our project" (our being the user and developer community).

   Jim Jagielski   [|]   [|]
	    "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."

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