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From "Steffen" <>
Subject Re: Apachelounge problems
Date Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:39:28 GMT
> The angst over Steffen's build sounds a bit more territorial than legal 
> to me. Just my 2c worth...

Tom, indeed that is  my feeling : territorial.

There is more, see my next post about the Apache Feather I have to remove.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Donovan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 03:46
Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems

> William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > doesn't belong on any external site.  Since it's not an ASF release,
> > *you* are absorbing all the liability and risk that any released ASF
> > package would carry.  It's an apachelounge release, so you would
> > personally answer to any IP issues.  Not smart.
> Issac Goldstand wrote:
> > Steffen,
> >   I really don't see anything threatening by what Bill said.  On the
> ...
> > posting an RC without enough bells, whistles or warning lights
> > (regardless of how many notices you did put up about it being a RC and
> > not a release; they'll say it's a binary and who's looking, or
> Maybe not threatening - but it is an eye-opener for some of us that the 
> Apache2 license protects "released" versions of Apache differently.
> My (possibly faulty) understanding was that the whole "Redistribution" 
> and "Disclaimer of Warranty" parts applied to *any* Apache software - 
> even if it was built from today's bug-ridden head revision of the trunk, 
> and that it was  a solid and reliable protection from just the scenario 
> you describe.
> The "you-must-build-it-yourself-from-source" rule to test a release 
> candidate probably isn't too much bother for Unix users, but many 
> Windows users look to a small number of "Windows builders" to build a RC 
> like Steffen's VC8 build so they can test what they expect to put into 
> production once the version is released (*if* it is released of course!)
> I am certainly one of these.
> The likelihood that Apache Lounge members would mistake Steffen's 2.2.5 
> build for a released version is no greater than all the many other 
> situations where unreleased versions of open-source software are 
> available.  Perhaps a first-time hobbyist experimenter might make this 
> mistake, but certainly not any professional admins.
> The angst over Steffen's build sounds a bit more territorial than legal 
> to me. Just my 2c worth...
> -tom-

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