Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7917 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2007 10:22:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2007 10:22:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 71881 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2007 10:19:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 71589 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2007 10:19:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 71577 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jul 2007 10:19:51 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:19:51 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [64.202.165.35] (HELO smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.165.35) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:19:48 -0700 Received: (qmail 29440 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2007 10:19:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.15.193.17) by smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.35) with ESMTP; 17 Jul 2007 10:19:26 -0000 Message-ID: <469C97AB.7080901@rowe-clan.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:19:23 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@httpd.apache.org CC: Mladen Turk Subject: Re: svn commit: r556860 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS References: <20070717092333.195091A981A@eris.apache.org> In-Reply-To: <20070717092333.195091A981A@eris.apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org mturk@apache.org wrote: > Author: mturk > Date: Tue Jul 17 02:23:30 2007 > New Revision: 556860 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=556860 > Log: > Comment the backport concerns for ApacheMonitor > > --- httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS (original) > +++ httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS Tue Jul 17 02:23:30 2007 > @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ > wrowe notes post today to list, can we please test for >= VISTA > so this doesn't break again upon the release of longhorn server > or 'nextgen' windows? > + mturk notes: No, because we cannot be sure that any further version > + will not break either the service or GUI api, in which case we > + would need a separate code depending on the post VISTA versions. But this is *nonsense*. We may as well simply have APR stop working at each new version, if you are that worried about application compatibility. The simple fact is that *most* applications continue to hum along nicely from OS rev to OS rev, no matter if we are talking about NT to 2000 to XP to Vista, or if we are talking about Linux kernel 2.2 to 2.4 to 2.6, or Solaris 2.6 to 2.8 to 8.0 to 10.0. Of course it *might* break. But 90% of the time, it won't even load at this point. The other 10% of the time, it fails to work. So do we want to inflict failure on all the success cases to work around 10% of the unexpected failures to anticipate a fatal change by an OS vendor? My own 2c is that this isn't the way the httpd project operates. Planned obsolescence bites. Bill