Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82915 invoked from network); 24 May 2007 06:56:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 May 2007 06:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 63083 invoked by uid 500); 24 May 2007 06:56:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 62563 invoked by uid 500); 24 May 2007 06:56:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 62551 invoked by uid 99); 24 May 2007 06:56:48 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 23:56:48 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [64.202.165.233] (HELO smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.165.233) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 23:56:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 14339 invoked from network); 24 May 2007 06:56:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.15.193.17) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 24 May 2007 06:56:20 -0000 Message-ID: <46553713.9040001@rowe-clan.net> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:56:19 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@httpd.apache.org, docs@httpd.apache.org, Apache Infrastructure Subject: [Issue] External links @ the wiki, aka pagechange wars X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org We have a serious issue to determine, and I've asked for a 48 hour cooldown of wiki.apache.org/httpd/ to make a decision, and in the meantime asked that the wiki become read-only for the conclusion of this decision. [ ] Our httpd wiki is open to external resources for httpd. [ ] External httpd resources are prohibited. I mean this explicitly, obviously a link to MS/Sun/RedHat about their specific platform would be genuinely useful and relevant. I'm asking about askapache's external links, which have not been actually contributed to the foundation. And we've never presumed that pointers to external links are resources under the AL. AskApache and megaspaz decided to start a pagechange war tonight, but the first point is to decide if such external 'helpful pages' are welcome. If so, AskApache was in the right, if not, megaspaz is right. Either way, I immediately asked for infra to shutter the wiki to write access until this was resolved as a matter of POLICY. Once we determine a policy, I belive we owe megaspaz and AskApache a second chance once they are informed of the definative policy. Future wiki abuse would, of course, lead to account and IP blockage. But I believe at this moment both acted in best-faith without any guidance from our project, and we need to have policies so folks can be responsible wiki users. This isn't the end-all of all possibilities, but let's discuss for 2 days and reopen the wiki with a concrete policy? Bill