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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: 3.0 - Proposed Goals
Date Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:08:36 GMT

On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> On 2/13/07, Paul Querna <> wrote:
>> - Rewrite how Brigades, Buckets and filters work.  Possibly  
>> replace them
>> with other models. I haven't been able to personally consolidate my
>> thoughts on how to 'fix' filters, but I am sure we can plenty of long
>> threads about it :-)
> The collective design experiences behind serf tell me it's a lot
> easier (and performant) following's serf's bucket model.  Remember
> that serf's design came out of everyone's (me, Greg, Cliff, Roy, etc.)
> grief with filters and brigades and such - so I think it represents at
> least a good step in the right direction.
> I think httpd's bucket brigade model became overly complex and missed
> some goals.  I really like how Serf standardized on one model for
> 'input' and 'output' - which is a sore point with httpd's filters.
> Serf's buckets themselves are also about as close to Roy's original
> 'onions' model as you'll find anywhere.
> For those that haven't seen serf, it lives here now:
> So, it'd be nice if Serf would be a starting point - plus, if we
> switched to that, we'd have most of the core design done for 3.x.  --
> justin

+1... I hadn't tracked serf for a few months but
I had been thinking the same thing.

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