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From "Steffen" <i...@apachelounge.com>
Subject Re: Win32 binary distributions 2.1.9-beta and onwards
Date Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:06:17 GMT
> Ok, on further consideration, if Joe casual user has the opportunity to 
> open
> up the project in their free edition of VisualStudio 2005, and learn 
> Apache,
> perhaps contribute back, I believe *we* win, and the user wins.

Agree  *you* win, and we user wins. And I try to contribute back.
I used VisualStudio 2005 and had not an issue with building 2.2

Steffen

Ps. Also compiled some modules, see http://www.apachelounge.com/download/



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wrowe@rowe-clan.net>
To: <dev@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Win32 binary distributions 2.1.9-beta and onwards


> William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>> Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:40:25PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have 6.0, 2000/.NET, 2003, and 2005 sitting here, and will build 
>>>> whichever
>>>> flavor is deemed 'appropriate'.
>>>>
>>>> If nobody speaks up, I'm building 'same old, same old' under MSVCRT.
>>>
>>> I think that's appropriate, 2005 is a bit of a battle right now. Getting
>>> openssl to compile with 2005 is a real nightmare (more than usual).
>>
>> If this too shall pass, I'm in favor of 'doing it right' for the long 
>> term,
>> 2.2 will be here a while.  Raising some questions beyond the httpd 
>> community
>> with an eye to the official binary sometime early next week, prior to 
>> hackathon.
>
> Ok, on further consideration, if Joe casual user has the opportunity to 
> open
> up the project in their free edition of VisualStudio 2005, and learn 
> Apache,
> perhaps contribute back, I believe *we* win, and the user wins.
>
> That said, I'm inquiring of the ActiveState staff about their tools, where 
> are
> they going to be in the next month or few?  Not endorsing them, but they 
> are
> one of several valid solutions.
>
> We push our module authors to whatever we build to, if they are doing 
> anything
> fancy with freeing resources in a different context than they were 
> allocated
> (either passing off resource ownership to us from their module, or 
> surrendering
> our ownership to their module as a raw resource.)  APR makes almost all of 
> these
> a no-op, and in fact mod_aspdotnet uses VC 2000, soon to be 2005, because 
> it
> never trades ownership of resources this way.
>
> But language blending, al la mod_python or mod_perl, is an entirely 
> different
> beast, these things will be passed back and forth, and will cause hassles. 
> So
> httpd is somewhat dependent upon other organizations which distribute 
> win32
> ported languages compiled in MSVC.
>
> As far as OpenSSL etc, nothing says those can't be patched and we are up 
> and
> running again quickly, in fact they'd broken their shared build on HPUX 
> and
> that's where I'm currently spending my patience.  After that, proposing 
> the
> fix for VS2005 should be a no-brainer ;-)
>
> Bill
>
>
> 


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