Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23868 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2005 20:07:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Sep 2005 20:07:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 72848 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2005 20:07:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 72761 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2005 20:07:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 72705 invoked by uid 99); 20 Sep 2005 20:07:18 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:07:18 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [194.25.134.84] (HELO mailout09.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:07:26 -0700 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EHoOK-00076N-00; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:07:00 +0200 Received: from cerberus.heimnetz.de (bKgmdiZc8eH4vmjiIT3CcnM4n2CtYOAAhj0cKIXPGe6SlQSZsR-8cY@[80.141.215.185]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1EHoOC-0qWcD20; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:06:52 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.4] (euler.heimnetz.de [192.168.2.4]) by cerberus.heimnetz.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id B5C351721C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:06:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43306BE8.2020200@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:07:04 +0200 From: r.pluem@t-online.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 X-Accept-Language: de, en, de-de, en-gb MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Issues for 2.1.8 References: <432DDB20.8020901@force-elite.com> In-Reply-To: <432DDB20.8020901@force-elite.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: bKgmdiZc8eH4vmjiIT3CcnM4n2CtYOAAhj0cKIXPGe6SlQSZsR-8cY X-TOI-MSGID: 7dcd1aec-48b3-4227-9734-aaf847d20263 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Paul Querna wrote: > I would like to tag and start a 2.1.8-beta cycle next weekend. > > According to our VERSIONING file, we should remove all modules > underneath modules/experimental/ for the 2.2.0 release. This currently > includes mod_case_filter, mod_charset_lite, mod_example, mod_dbd, and > mod_filter. This means we should either declare some of these modules Sorry for possibly starting an old discussion here, but is this really a good idea? I guess mod_ldap and mod_cache would not be in that good shape they currently are on 2.2.x branch and on trunk, if they had not been experimental modules in 2.0.x and would have only lived on the trunk. I think by having them in experimental they got in the focus of several people who weren't involved in developing httpd and thus got tested which resulted in PR's, patches and enhancement requests by those people. And even if these people look in the trunk for such modules, it is not always easy to make them work with the previous release. So from my point of view we should keep the experimental module section. Don't get me wrong: We should have a close look on the modules that get packed in the experimental section for releases of stable branches. It should not contain modules that go nowhere and that nobody here has any interest in any longer. Being in the experimental section should be more of an hint for the user of a module that this module has not the same level of quality as the remainder of the release in the meaning of - It may has some bugs - Some features have not been implemented yet - It has not been tested that intensely in the wild Especially for mod_filter I think we should ensure that it is contained in 2.2 as it was announced as one of the new features of 2.2 at the ApacheCon. Furthermore I think it is an really important and exciting feature for 2.2. Otoh I agree with Nick that it may be wise to keep it in the experimental section for some time to get some more testing in the wild. As mod_filter is something that not everybody uses everyday the tests done by the beta users may not be enough. [..cut..] Regards RĂ¼diger