Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 484 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2005 23:23:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Sep 2005 23:23:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 79813 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2005 23:23:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 79788 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2005 23:23:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 79775 invoked by uid 99); 20 Sep 2005 23:23:20 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:23:20 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [209.133.192.6] (HELO devsys.jaguNET.com) (209.133.192.6) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:23:28 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.11.7a/jag-2.6) id j8KNN3D26132 for dev@httpd.apache.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Jagielski Message-Id: <200509202323.j8KNN3D26132@devsys.jaguNET.com> Subject: Re: Issues for 2.1.8 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: jim@jaguNET.com In-Reply-To: <200509202137.59715.nick@webthing.com> from "Nick Kew" at Sep 20, 2005 09:37:58 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Nick Kew wrote: > > I agree about both of those. And I'd say the same even more strongly for > mod_dbd, simply because it (or whatever it becomes when updated in the > light of real-life experience) should become the basis of a new generation > of applications. If it's there, it'll start to permeate the Usual Suspects > like mod_perl. If not, we'll still have the old situation of Perl, Python, > PHP, Tcl, Authentication, Logging etc each maintaining its own separate > database connections, and having to reinvent the connection pooling > wheel if they want to if they want to improve scalability. > People will not use it unless they can *really* trust a module. Simply expecting people to migrate to it because of the theoretical benefits isn't quite wise, until it has proven itself. The idea is to make it easier for people to have access to a module, use it and test it. More exposure means more feedback and more bug-fixes (hopefully :) ). But simply "being there" isn't enough to expect world-wide usage, but "being there" is enough to hope that people have easier access to play around with it. -- ======================================================================= Jim Jagielski [|] jim@jaguNET.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."