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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] 2.1.3 as beta
Date Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:37:14 GMT
At 10:21 AM 3/7/2005, Paul Querna wrote:

>I disagree. The current authentication in 2.1 is far far better than what 2.0 has.  I
have been using it in production variations for over 2 years now.  Just the ability to use
any authentication backend with Digest is a huge improvement.

>++1 - and I've always agreed.  My only question is does the new API
>make it impossible to do simple things.
>I believe the best method is to attack it at the point of least work, and if it ends up
being good, look at extending it to everything.
>I think it should be hacked into mod_authnz_ldap, and if it works, then work can be done
to generalize it to all the authnz modules.  Right now we really don't know what is required
to get it done.  It is all just mailing list talk and theory.

Ok, I'd seriously disagree :)  mod_authnz_ldap is already 
difficult enough to follow, keeping it as fundamental as it is 
today, and extending this externally, ensures we don't add bugs
to _ldap just as we want to release a beta.

>I do not believe it is appropriate to threaten a -1 veto on 2.2.0 for this issue.  

Whoops - I never said veto to 2.2 (I don't think) ... you can't
veto a beta.  You vote, and it's majority rule on releases (and
always has been.)  Minimum 3 +1's, more +1's than -1's.

>Its not a regression, its not something we have a patch for, its something that didn't
exist a week ago.

If the new API makes things more difficult, it's a regression.
This AAA provider discussion just offers us the opportunity to
really evaluate the usefulness of the new API, are things going
to be better or worse when you want to do something beyond add
a single-use provider.

And maybe the API doesn't interfere in which case we prove that
the new API doesn't hinder development, but promotes it.  We
already know the new API makes it simpler to implement SQL, ODBC
or other back ends folks care to create or port to 2.2


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