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From Ivan Ristic <>
Subject Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/server protocol.c
Date Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:47:22 GMT
Roy T. Fielding wrote:

>> What would make more sense is "Error while reading HTTP request line.
>> (remote browser didn't send a request?)". This indicates exactly what
>> httpd was trying to do when the error occurred, and gives a hint of
>> why the error might have occurred.
> We used to have such a message.  It was removed from httpd because too
> many users complained about the log file growing too fast, particularly
> since that is the message which will be logged every time a browser
> connects and then its initial request packet gets dropped by the network.
> This is not an error that the server admin can solve -- it is normal
> life on the Internet.  We really shouldn't be logging it except when
> on DEBUG level.

  As you say, it is normal life on the Internet. I don't think Apache
  should be hiding the fact that many browsers don't finish with the
  request line, or timeout in some other way. But the main problem, and
  it's how this all started, is that without the message it becomes very
  difficult to detect when you are being attacked. At the same time
  such attacks are trivial to execute and don't require a fast
  connection. A smart attacker will open new connections at a very
  slow rate, just a bit faster then Apache closes them. The only way to
  figure it out is to be there when it happens or use some other
  network-level mechanism (netflow, argus, etc), but even that would
  involve long time of looking at the logs and comparing it to the
  access logs.

  As for people complaining about the error log growing too fast, I am
  sure their access logs grow *much* faster and they handle that
  without a problem. My point being logging is part of the package. I am
  OK with assigning this message to a low log level, but I don't think
  DEBUG is the correct choice.

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