Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3056 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2004 15:22:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Sep 2004 15:22:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 89009 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2004 15:22:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 88925 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2004 15:22:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 88899 invoked by uid 99); 14 Sep 2004 15:22:42 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.30] (HELO frontend1.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.30) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:22:41 -0700 X-Sasl-enc: GJy6F6vPub0D5CH7UVKxHQ 1095175358 Received: from HEC-4949.hec.ca (unknown [132.211.188.107]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DD0C1526A; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:21:15 -0400 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Est_=28heure_d'=E9t=E9=29?=) From: Joshua Slive To: docs@httpd.apache.org Cc: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Shorten the default config and the distribution (was: IfModule in the Default Config) In-Reply-To: <20040914081402.00004bcc@fe-pc-092.int.cinetic.de> Message-ID: References: <1095093819.18051.8.camel@localhost> <20040914081402.00004bcc@fe-pc-092.int.cinetic.de> X-X-Sender: slive@fastmail.fm@mail.messagingengine.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="69185921-24662-1095175275=:3696" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --69185921-24662-1095175275=:3696 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-15] Andr� Malo wrote: > A >30 KB default config, which nobody outside this circle here > really understands, isn't helpful - especially for beginners. I agree that the current config file is too big and ugly. But let's be a little careful here. There needs to be a balance. Detailed config files do help users understand the capabilities of the server and make it much easier to activate features. So I suggest we talk about specifics, rather than just trying to reduce the size. For example: - Can we get rid of the non-unix mpm stuff from the default config. (Don't mean to offend os/2 and beos (and possibly netware), but they are really superfluous and confusing for most people.) - Can we get rid of most of the AddLanguage/AddCharset directives? They are a constant source of bug reports, and I really can't imagine that many people use them as-is. (Do people really name their files index.html.utf32be.el?) The above two changes alone would get rid of almost 200 lines. > > In the same cycle we could remove the docs from the default distribution and > start distributing them officially as separate packages. (But we could > distribute a separate config snippet for the multilingual docs, which can > be included in the httpd.conf). The more translations we add, the less > applicable is it to include the whole doc tree. +1 Joshua. --69185921-24662-1095175275=:3696--