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From "Mathihalli, Madhusudan" <>
Subject RE: Reload CRL without re-starting Apache
Date Tue, 25 May 2004 21:01:08 GMT
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joshua Slive [] 
>On Tue, 25 May 2004, Mathihalli, Madhusudan wrote:

>> AIUI, the 'graceful' restart forces the child processes join all the
>> threads and re-start. (Pl. let me know if this is incorrect).
>> The requirement is to update the crl without causing the process to
>> re-start in order to achieve a zero down-time.
>Yes, the "graceful" restart does force all the child 
>process/threads to 
>restart.  But it does so in a "graceful" manner: workers are 
>not killed 
>until they are done serving requests and new workers are 
>started before 
>the old ones are killed in order to assure that there is 
>always a pool of 
>workers available to serve new connections.
>Theoretically, "apachectl graceful" should have zero down-time 
>from the client perspective.

Hmmn.. I didn't realize that ! I'll check it out. I was blinded by the
PID's change after a 'graceful' restart :-(.

Regarding the other aspect - do people think it's worth having a re-read
hook ?

(With my HP hat on) I've come across a lot of customers who need the
online CRL update feature. I thought of providing a OCSP interace OR a
LDAP interface (to access CRL from a LDAP database) - but then they're
concerned that it'll slow things down. Hence, I had to provide a re-read
mechanism. If we come up with a re-read hook, it'll probably help lot
many other modules also.


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