Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 87508 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 20:12:22 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Nov 2003 20:12:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23111 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2003 20:12:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 23075 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2003 20:12:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 23058 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 20:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jimsys.jaguNET.com) (209.133.199.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Nov 2003 20:12:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jimsys.jaguNET.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22ABB18A4F8 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:12:08 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <3FB92002.3070508@wstoddard.com> References: <20031117182423.GA12038@castlerea.stdlib.net.> <3FB9141B.8010304@wstoddard.com> <3FB92002.3070508@wstoddard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4983CC24-193A-11D8-8BFB-000393D76AB8@jagunet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Jagielski Subject: Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:11:53 -0500 To: dev@httpd.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Nov 17, 2003, at 2:22 PM, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > In this economic environment (and perhaps this will turn out to be > generally true from now on), companies are not making investments in > IT unless they can get a proven and almost immediate return on that > investment. Making the jump to Apache 2.0 -can- be a big investment > (depending on how many custom/third party modules you use) Most people with those big investments are using at least *some* 3rd party modules. Having a 1.4 that is not binary compatible with 1.3 means that those 3rd party modules will need to be (at least) re-compiled for 1.4. So they will need to worry about 1.3, 1.4 and 2.0 (and potentially 2.2)... That's an *awful* lot to have people keep track of. I don't see companies out there wanting to do that... they will maintain their 1.3 modules for awhile, and their 2.x ones, because it *is* the next gen, but I think they would avoid 1.4 almost totally. Having 1.4 not be binary compatible with 1.3 severely limits its usefulness to those exact people that it's supposed to be helping.