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From "Peter J. Cranstone" <cransto...@msn.com>
Subject RE: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions please
Date Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:05:58 GMT
There is no flame - just a couple of points and a request for data.

>> If you want to improve something, you should provide solutions,
not critics

Certainly - early next year you will see them. Here are some current
performance stats with some new technology we're working on.


Configuration	Tool	Elapsed Time
(sec’s)	Data Transfer Rate
(KB/sec)	Requests per Second	Requests per
Minute	Performance Gain
Factor	
Apache	Apache Bench	38.735	882.92	2581.64	154,898	1.0	
Cyclone Proxy Cache
+
Apache	Apache Bench	15.663	2387.79	6384.47	383,068	2.47	
Apache	Zeus Bench	39.961	855.83	2502.44	150,146.4	1.0	
Squid
+
Apache	Zeus Bench	28.910	1314.42	3459.01	207,540.6	1.38	
Cyclone Proxy Cache
+
Apache	Zeus Bench	15.176	2464.42	6589.35	395,361	2.63	
Cyclone Proxy Cache
(Tuned Parser)
+
Apache	Zeus Bench	13.505	2769.34	7404.67	444,280.2	2.95	
Cyclone Proxy Cache 
(4 Tuned Functions)
+
Apache	Zeus Bench	13.006	2875.6	7688.76	461,325.6	3.07	

These numbers were obtained using a single processor Itanium® 1.0Ghz
(Madison) chip. By tuning certain HTTP string handling functions we have
seen up to a factor 11 performance improvement.

Our next benchmark is due by year end. Essentially we will be adding one
more line for the stats above. The goal is very simple - transmit greater
than 1 million requests in a single minute on a single processor Itanium
1Ghz machine. A factor 10 performance improvement. A single processor
Deerfield Itanium® chip costs $744 - our solution doesn't require a current
OS, nor hard drive to operate - it scales to multiple chips and can support
a cache of up to 1 terabyte of RAM

>> Revolution is for new players, carefully crafted evolutions are for the 
Mass

Yep…  Support for a 1TB cache, no hard drive, no current OS required, and
the ability to pump data faster than any other platform on the planet should
do the trick. Only thing left is to get the Itanium® platform into a single
1RU box at sub $5,000. I doubt we will have to wait long for that.

Long live the revolution

Regards,


Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Henri Gomez [mailto:hgomez@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:41 AM
To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: the wheel of httpd-dev life is surely slowing down, solutions
please

Peter J. Cranstone a écrit :

>>>It's not anymore "cool" to work on Apache.
> 
> 
> You nailed it - because no one knows where it's going. Where's the focus,
> what does Apache really want to be, whose leading the charge?
> 
> I've been following this forum a long, long time and the change in the
last
> 2 years has been the most dramatic - the old guard has gone, there is
little
> leadership and even less reason to do anything.
> 
> It takes a tremendous amount of work to build a quality software project
and
> sadly there is little enthusiasm to really improve Apache. 
> 
> One reason is obvious - with 66% of the market you're a monopoly (close)
and
> we've all seen what happens when competition disappears from the market
> place.

I'm not sure http-dev is the place to flam ASF and its commiters.

If you want to improve something, you should provide solutions,
not critics.

HTTPD have 66% of the market and that's great to see that
an OpenSource solution is well behind M$.

Sun, Oracle and majors corps have stopped dreaming having 50% of market
share some years ago.

At least we could say, Apache Software Foundation does it and
maintain its leading position.

How ?

- By producing solutions like HTTPD which are stable,
   full featured and works on so many platforms.

Revolution is for new players, carefully crafted evolutions are for the 
mass.



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