Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 49791 invoked by uid 500); 30 Aug 2002 21:19:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dev@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 49778 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 21:19:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6FE162.7060702@apache.org> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:19:30 -0700 From: Ian Holsman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split) References: <20020830064839.GT1657@apache.org> <5.1.0.14.2.20020830095130.031b2108@pop3.rowe-clan.net> <20020830154333.GY1657@apache.org> <20020830171752.GY13980@clove.org> <20020830172849.GA1657@apache.org> <3D6FB2D1.9000802@cnet.com> <20020830133720.D14402@lyra.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:00:49AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > >>Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >>... >> >>>I honestly don't care where this ends up. It just needs to get >>>in to our tree somewhere. The aaa code is broken. It needs to >>>be fixed (and I believe the patches we already have start the >>>process). 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 1.4 - whatever. I'm perfectly happy >>>to break backwards-compatibility. -- justin >> >>I wouldn't object to breaking aaa backward compatibility in 2.0, >>if it eliminates (for now) the need to start 2.1. > > > Hey... I don't believe it is going to break backwards compat [in a big way]. > I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. Since it won't break compat, then > it doesn't need a 2.1 bump. > > I think in the end, there will be these minor compat problems: > > * some LoadModule lines will need to go away; some added > > [ and the failure mode here makes this painless; it will be very obvious > that you need to toss a LoadModule when Apache says it can't find it. > and that you need to load another when it doesn't understand a directive > that you had in the file. ] > > * an undocumented feature of AuthUserFile and AuthGroupFile will go away. it > is unknown how the hell they worked to begin with. > > > I believe that is it. Justin: what else do you think will change from a user > standpoint? > > And note that the API isn't changing here, either. Justin is adding APIs for > people, but no changes. exactly, this talk of 2.1/branching etc is very premature. if you think your going to destablize the tree, then do your changes on a copy of the file.. and when your done just overwrite the old one. I'm thinking a in-progress directory should be created for these kind of things, simliar to the experimental mpm tree. what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree > > Cheers, > -g >