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From Thomas Eibner <>
Subject Re: Apache History Project - Call for comments
Date Wed, 15 May 2002 13:17:02 GMT
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:56:38AM -0400, Ben Hyde wrote:
> This comes up from time to time.  Somebody measures something; bugs
> submitted, bugs fixes, lines written, commits made, documents written,
> mails send, bylaws written, meetings attended, email threads started,
> email threads ended, uses of the word 'bucket'...
> When it has come up before I have written variations of the following.
> Try not to take this as an attack on the volunteer or the messenger
> but ...
> I have very strong objections to nieve attempts to reduce the
> contributions made by various individuals into 'objective' scores and
> 'leader boards'.
> Projects thrive when diverse and complementary skills are brought
> together in a way to avoids rivalry.  
> Skills are complementary when their measures are orthogonal.  Often they
> are so orthogonal that one contributor couldn't for the love nor money fill
> the role another person is playing.  I certainly could never fill
> Doug's shoes; he's a doer.
> In such an environment measures that are easily collected are certain to
> be seriously misleading and can trivially leave feelings hurt and create
> contests that lead to deadly disputes.

I agree, what I was more interested in was actually the sheer volume of
the mailinglist archive. These statistics weren't created for someone to
be offened and they aren't going generated on a regular basis anyway.
This was not an attempt to degrade anyone's effort on the Apache httpd

> It is extremely hard to get people to remain detached about these things.

Very true.

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