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From "Ryan Bloom" <>
Subject RE: [PATCH] new scoreboard creation logic, remove DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD from MPMs
Date Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:46:33 GMT
> This works well with perfork and worker under Linux.  I have a couple
> of comments though:
> 1) There are some not infrequent cases I have run into where apache
>    needs to be killed (for unrelated reasons) and the shared memory
>    segment does not get cleaned up.  When this happens, you can't
>    the server.  You get a "file exists" error and apache refuses to
>    up.  This is easy to fix with ipcrm but the error is confusing and
>    does not make the solution obvious.
>    It would be nice if apache would clean up the shared memory
>    if it sees it, or have a more meaningfull error.

The last time I looked at the scoreboard code, we tried very hard to
clean up after ourselves, by registering a cleanup to be called when the
process exited.  If we aren't doing that, or the cleanup isn't being
called, that is a bug.  If the parent is segfaulting, and thus not
calling the cleanup, there isn't much more we can do.  :-(

> 2) Unless I am missing something, there does not seem to be an easy
>    for an external application accessing the scoreboard to know how to
>    navigate the data structure.  You have to know the server limit and
>    thread limit or else you run into problems.  It would be nice to
>    be able to derive those values from the scoreboard image instead of
>    the httpd.conf file.

Those values should be found with the ap_mpm_query function.  If you
can't get them out of that function, they should be added to it.


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