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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: 2.0.28-beta release?
Date Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:02:38 GMT
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 12:00:31PM -0800, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2001 11:28 am, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > From: "Greg Ames" <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:56 PM
> > > that file, do the PITA dance with the CHANGES file, probably do a little
> > > testing, re-roll, rename the tarballs as beta.  What do others think?  I
> > > could note that this happened in the CHANGES file since I have to mess
> > > with it anyway.
> >
> > I'd suggest that you checkout on APACHE-2_0_28, tag as APACHE-2_0_28_ALPHA
> > for historical reasons, then we can add APACHE-2_0_28_BETA, etc.
> No, there is 2.0.28, period.  There isn't a 2.0.28-alpha and 2.0.28-beta
> code base.  There is one 2.0.28 codebase.  You could have different versions
> if the alpha/beta distinction was in the code, but it isn't.  It is only in the tarball
> name.

I'm with Ryan. 2.0.28 is exactly that. alpha and beta are *designations*.
They are not code changes.

2.0.28 should be buildable from the label. If the CHANGES file was modified
*outside* of that, then we have a problem.

Ship the damned code. This is a BETA for crying out loud. We don't need to
weasel patches in. "oh, just this one little fix." Fuck that. Beta means
bugs. Beta means that we have a list of issues for people to be concerned
with. Beta means people may have platform-specific problems. Beta is not GA.

+1 on beta. Get a release out the door. Christ almighty... what's it take
around here? The new release process was intended to get tarballs *out* to
people. Not to be held up in a bunch of snippy little bug fix this, bug fix
that. Ship it out with bugs. Call it alpha if it doesn't feel right. Call it
beta if it feels good.

If an ErrorDocument doesn't work in one case, then tell people "too bad.
don't do that". If the server dies with a particular subrequest executed
from some wonky CGI-provided SSI document, then say "get this patch." But we
gotta get more releases out into the public's hands.

2.0.16 was crap. Should people really be using that? Not a chance.

Give them 2.0.28.


Greg Stein,

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