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From "Peter J. Cranstone" <>
Subject RE: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0
Date Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:46:55 GMT
I suppose the only thing we can do is contribute. Kevin has, mod_gzip
was released under an ASF license which was approved by the ASF Board.
If there is a hidden agenda there then you're better than I at spotting

Mod_gzip is available for 1.3.x

It will be available for 2.x when you hit beta.

It will contain the same license as before.

There are no patents, TM's or anything else associated with it.

We will continue to support both versions.

Now tell me where the hidden agenda is. 

If it's not technical, then it's social (you just plain don't like us...
Not a problem) or political (the powers that be don't like us... Again
not a problem)

>From a political standpoint I'm pissed that Covalent Technologies can
cut a deal with Compaq for the new Compaq Apache server (wonder if it
will ship with or without compression (details are tough to find on this
whole deal). But you know what, more power to Ryan and his crew for
doing something like that. Did I ever see a vote for something like
that, no... I even checked the ASF minutes... Nothing since February.

This whole conversation is mute, include, exclude, revoke whatever,
mod_gzip will always be available from Kevin and I and we will support

If you don't include it, all it means is another click to our website.



-----Original Message-----
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar@Golux.Com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0

"Peter J. Cranstone" wrote:
> After 3-4 years we know exactly how you work.

Oh?  Then what is the explanation for Kevin publicly soliciting an
individual to do something that recent discussion has shown the group
considers moot?

Regardless of facts, it is perception that matters.  Not speaking for
anyone else, my perception of the practises in which you and Kevin have
seemingly engaged makes me personally wary and unwilling to take
anything you write at face value.  Little things, like Kevin's post just
now, and the multiplicity of 'I'm not with RC' mail origins a couple of
years ago, and the overall tenor of your posts..

I try very hard to keep an open mind; when I committed to you to get you
a session at ApacheCon to talk about generic content compression issue,
I meant it -- but was overruled 4 to 1. Despite my best efforts at
open-mindedness, something about your collective tactics and polemic
keeps making me want to close my mind against you.  And I suspect (but
do not know) that others have the same perception, which may have been
the cause of that 4-1 vote.

Most people I take at face value -- but you seem to change positions so
much that I feel I cannot but suspect you of having a hidden agenda.
Maybe you do not, and maybe you do -- and maybe it is no more than
trying to get RC's package into the Apache distribution because of the
marketing bulge that would give RC.  But.. maybe it is more than that.
I cannot tell, and you have not made it easy to tell, and I am not sure
I would blindly accept it if you did.

This is not technical, this is social and political.
#ken	P-)}

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