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From: "Bill Stoddard" <bill@wstoddard.com>
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Subject: Re: 2.0.23 tarballs up
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:04:08 -0400
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+1 for beta.  -1 for GA.

Our announcement letter for the beta should clearly state that the server API is stable
and third party module authors can begin porting their modules to this code base and that
the beta is a candidate for GA. If this beta holds up in the field for a few weeks, then
declare it golden. Cliff's comments regarding known problems should go into the
announcement letter too.

We've been running apache.org for months with fewer and fewer problems with each rev. A
number of other folks are sucessfully running httpd 2.0 on production sites. I believe the
prefork beta -will- hold up. One thing that concerns me... Do we have a good feel for the
performance and memory differences between prefork 2.0 and 1.3?  It would really stink to
discover that prefork 2.0 is way slower or has a much bigger memory footprint than 1.3.
Some capacity planning info would be good to have...

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Bloom" <rbb@covalent.net>
To: <new-httpd@apache.org>; "Cliff Woolley" <cliffwoolley@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: 2.0.23 tarballs up


>
> Okay, now its time for me to agitate things again.  (I know, people are
> asking when I stopped agitating).  :-)
>
> I want to go production.  This server has more useful changes than just
> threads, and I don't believe that not having a threaded MPM should stop
> us from going into production.  So, I believe I have seen at least three +1s
> for beta, and I will be number 4.  +1 for beta.
>
> I'm starting a new trend.
>
> +1 for GA.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Friday 10 August 2001 00:32, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 02:13:46AM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > > > The tarballs for 2.0.23 are up at http://dev.apache.org/dist/.  Please
> > > > check them out...
> > >
> > > Compiles and runs on Linux 2.4.  So, +1 for beta.
> > >
> > > I'll try to find time tomorrow to compile it on Solaris, but things are
> > > slightly out-of-kilter over here, so I doubt that will happen.
> >
> > It builds and runs fine on Solaris 2.6 (tested threaded MPM).  The only
> > warnings are those stupid "function declaration is not a prototype"
> > messages that've been around for months that I can't figure out how to
> > fix, and they only appear in maintainer mode anyway, plus a single warning
> > that appears in both maintainer and regulard modes: "sockets.c:269:
> > warning: passing arg 2 of `connect' discards qualifiers from pointer
> > target type".  That one's been around forever and a day also.  No harm
> > done.
> >
> > It also concur that it builds fine under Linux 2.4 (RHL7.1), and same for
> > FreeBSD 4.3.  The only warnings on either are the tmpnam() vs. mkstemp()
> > warnings for the htpasswd and htdigest support programs.  I didn't try
> > running it on icarus, but it runs fine on my Linux box, plus it passes all
> > the mod_include tests from httpd-test, which I view as important since
> > mod_include utilizes so many features of the server.  I tested both the
> > prefork and threaded MPMs.
> >
> > It even compiles and runs on Irix 6.5.  =-)  The only warnings (besides
> > harmless linker warnings I'm chalking up to the busted build environment
> > we have on our SGIs) were these:
> > threaded.c: In function `ap_mpm_run':
> > threaded.c:1216: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 4)
> > mod_status.c: In function `status_handler':
> > mod_status.c:492: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 3)
> > mod_status.c:572: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 5)
> > mod_status.c:649: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 5)
> >
> > And me with this pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side...
> >
> >
> > +1 for beta.
> >
> > --Cliff
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> >    Cliff Woolley
> >    cliffwoolley@yahoo.com
> >    Charlottesville, VA
>
> --
>
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