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From Harrie Hazewinkel <har...@covalent.net>
Subject Re: [PATCH] mpm_query
Date Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:46:09 GMT
rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Sander van Zoest wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> >
> > > I want to decouple the MPM query function from an actual name.  The goal
> > > should be to report the properties of the MPM, not which exact MPM was
> > > used.  Once that is done, the need for the string disappears.
> >
> > I would think you want to provide the actual name as well, on top of
> > the properties. This probably could be listed just as APACHE_MPM_DIR which
> > it could query the properties from the actual MPM via a common interface.
> > Everything found in -V should be used for monitoring/logging.
> 
> That value is already compiled into the server.  But there is currently no
> way to query it.

Then it should be added somehow. :-))

> 
> > What happens when you have incompatibility on a particular platform with
> > a MPM? It shouldn't just segfault, there should be a way to exit cleanly
> > explaining why this particular module or piece of code can not run with
> > the MPM used and the platform.
> 
> If there is a compatability problem between a platform and an MPM, then we
> currently do not allow that MPM to be compiled on that platform without
> direct intervention from the person compiling the server.  For example, on
> FreeBSD, we do not compile with threads unless the admin tells us we have
> to.
> 
> > The more accurate information you have in the noc the better. Why monitor
> > if you do not know what you are monitoring?
> 
> The problem is that the MPM name is not accurate.  We have a habit of
> changing names of things.  The MPM properties are the best way to
> determine the behavior of the MPM IMNSHO.

Then Apache should start standardising there efforts, ASAP.
Changing it is just a hell from management perspective.
Each time when you upgrade a server you have to upgrade
the management software (whatever that may be) should be
upgraded to??



Harrie
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