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From dean gaudet <>
Subject Re: apr_sucks
Date Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:52:20 GMT
i did say "-1" on all of the discussions of this topic prior to the most
recent one.

during the most recent one i said "this is a really bad idea, and here's
why".  i didn't vote on the most recent one because i'm not coding on
apache right now, and i'm following my own admonition ages ago that if
someone isn't active they shouldn't be vetoing stuff.

if the thing you we're talking about runs *outside of httpd*, then why the
heck are you linking it with 1.3 (or 2.0)?


On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, dean gaudet wrote:
> > the example dougm gave which caused you all to jump in and make a symbol
> > name change is equivalent to someone saying "i want to link half of the
> > linux 2.2.17 kernel into my linux 2.0.36 kernel, do you think you could
> > accomodate by renaming everything in 2.2.17?"
> my example didn't make everybody jump, it was something that had already
> been discussed, i just re-raised the issue.  and gimme a break, it's
> nothing like linking kernels together.  i have something that links
> against libapr so it can run outside of httpd (from command line,
> daemons that are not httpd, mod_cgi, java servlets, etc.)  it's nice and
> clean to use this library with 2.0, but until that's stable/released, we
> need to support 1.3, the cleanest way todo that is to link against libapr.
> > i don't consider there to be any hard requirement that APR be linkable
> > with apache-1.3.
> i don't think it's a requirement either.  there was plenty of time to say
> "-1, don't do that because ...", i would have hacked around it some other
> way.
> i waited a week after re-raising the issue, then said "ok, i'm gonna do it 
> tonight", i didn't do it that night (another chance to say "no") and said
> the same thing the next day (another chance to say "no"), then actually
> made the change late that night.

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