Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-new-httpd-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 32042 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jun 2000 16:24:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact new-httpd-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list new-httpd@apache.org Received: (qmail 31772 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 16:24:44 -0000 Message-ID: <00b401bfccae$f13632a0$0100007f@localhost> From: "jlwpc1" To: References: Subject: Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src CHANGES Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:37:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src CHANGES >=20 > > > And no, if the user can't or won't read the manual and error > > > string and FAQ and newsgroup, we aren't responsible. > >=20 > > Unfortunately, part of the problem is that the error string is > > typically displayed in a DOS window that disappears instantly. >=20 > But OtherBill has posted a patch that keeps that windows from closing, = so > I think this problem goes away. >=20 Nope. You must have never worked "user" support lines before. :) Apache knows what the "user" problem is. Apache knows how to "fix it" in _many_ ways. Example: If Apache pops up a MessageBoxW() (Unicode of course) saying change = server.name line #123 to 127.xxxxx and please check your hosts file, = etc, then why not have the computer do it on the okay button or just = plain do it, after checking for standalone features. If Apache is later restarted and standalone features fail - re-adjust. = Silly me it just is a computer - use it. Example: After Apache tries to start after the third time - just do it. Example: Ask the user - re-act. Example: Whoops ask in what language? No problem for Windows - use local = version. Apache does put all text in a seperate file, right? So what is the real Unix Apache problem here? :) JLW