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From bmar...@penguincomputing.com
Subject Re: [PATCH] apaci permissions
Date Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:06:56 GMT
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 04:34:13PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> bmartin@penguincomputing.com wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > This is my first post here so I should probably explain myself.
> > 
> > You'll all be glad to know that there is now YAPD (yet another paid developer)
> > working on apache.  I figured the best way to announce this was with a patch.
> > 
> > I'm working on apache full time for penguin computing.  My direction as of yet
> > is still somewhat murky as I was hired last week :)  For now I'm digging into the
> > internals of the server trying to figure out what's going on.  Before last week
> > I hadn't worked on apache at all, so don't expect more than trivial stuff from
> > me for now :-)
> > 
> 
> Great! I know you know this, but it's possible others on new-httpd don't,
> so I'll just say it.
> 
> 1. Just because someone is being paid by another company to develop
>    for Apache, it does not make then an official Apache developer.
>    Certainly, the ASF is not paying someone to develop.
> 
> 2. No matter what, all patches are based on merit. It doesn't matter
>    if they come from someone who is paid to work on Apache or
>    not. The fact that someone is paid to work on Apache doesn't
>    mean that we are obligated to accept any changes.
> 
> 3. Those with commit access to the Apache source code or those who
>    have worked long and hard to obtain that honor. Simply having
>    someone pay your salary and a title that says "Apache developer"
>    does not mean that one has commit access to the code tree. Nor
>    does it make one an ASF member or any such thing.
> 
> 4. People who aren't being paid by anyone to develop for Apache are
>    still VERY VERY WELCOME to submit patches, help the cause, etc...
>    It's a labor of love, whether you're being paid to do it or
>    not :)
> 
> 'Course, I know you know all that, but I'm sure that some may
> misinterpret your message, so better to be proactive :)
> 
Good to clear these things up.  I guess some people associate paid developers
with commercial software.  That hadn't really occured to me.  

To reiterate:  I'm an employee of penguin computing.  They are not affiliated
with the ASF.  We sell linux based servers and a large segment of our client
base are web shops.  So my job is to foster goodwill in the community by doing
general development and also to fix any specific issues that may arise WRT our
customers.

My eventual goal is to become a respected member of the apache community.  No
amount of money can buy this.  I will have to demonstrate to all of you that 
I know what I'm talking about through many a posting here and also many patches.

I don't expect that to happen any time soon :-)

If anyone has any questions by all means ask.

Brian



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