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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] "Relayed" Apache API Project
Date Sun, 06 Feb 2000 23:53:44 GMT
"Roy T. Fielding" wrote:
> >I know almost nothing about Corba so I can't really say anything here.
> >But if we remove all the Corba-ish stuff from the orb and use IIOP like
> >we use AJP today, I don't think it's a huge issue.
> Corba is nothing without the compiled IDL interfaces and object ids.
> Using IIOP to transmit a fixed subset will simply add overhead to
> whatever it is that you are sending -- eventually it will encounter
> an ORB that wants to negotiate or broker the interface, and your simple
> implementation will just puke and die.  (Of course, the same happens
> to any ORB implementation that meets up with an ORB from another
> vendor who hasn't cross-tested for compatibility, but that is a much
> longer diatribe than I care to get into at the moment).
> I am working on a tokenized, self-descriptive, bi-directional messaging
> protocol that will have the capability to replace HTTP.  However, it will
> still be optimized for streaming transfer of data, and will simply be
> "efficient" for small control messages.  It is also caught amongst
> too many other requests for my time, so I wouldn't suggest waiting for
> me to finish.
> If what you want is to add an extension to the existing Apache hook
> mechanism such that the hook invokes an RPC interface, then you should
> just use an existing RPC protocol with a well-defined marshalling.
> However, I can tell you with absolute certainty that it will be the
> wrong architecture for a high-end server implementation, so eventually
> it will be replaced with an architecture that operates directly on
> the data stream.
> Anyway, hopefully we'll have time to brainstorm some of this stuff
> at ApacheCon next month.

Thanks for this, Roy, really appreciated... and yes, I would love to
have a wide discussion and brainstorm about this at ApacheCon... yeah,
it makes perfect sense, I hope all the interested people will make it

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
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