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From Dean Gaudet <>
Subject Re: Simple Object Access Protocol
Date Fri, 05 Nov 1999 19:49:12 GMT
um, this is still as stupid as trying to prevent porn from going across a
firewall.  there is absolutely no difference.  it's all just bits.


On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Manoj Kasichainula wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 08:14:42AM -0800, Dean Gaudet wrote:
> > what exactly is "web information" ?  i can put whatever i want on a "web
> > page".  information is just bits.  what you're saying sounds a lot like
> > saying fetching porn is a security hole which firewall vendors should be
> > fixing.
> SOAP (from what I've read) is an attempt to shoehorn arbitrary
> client-server protocols into port 80 connactions, for the explicit
> purpose of circumventing firewalls. Of course anything can be sent via
> port 80 or through HTTP, but it's not really done commonly right now,
> and that makes the lives of firewall coders and admins far easier,
> because people aren't installing programs on their desktops to do
> this. If SOAP were to become common, then the firewall admins would be
> pushed into blocking port 80 completely or putting in fancier (and
> slower) filters.
> Of course, I curse at firewalls almost daily, so it does not break my
> heart to see protocols that work around them.
> -- 
> Manoj Kasichainula - manojk at io dot com -

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