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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Apache 164 percent speed increase
Date Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:51:25 GMT
If you aren't providing patches, then just what the hell *ARE* you
trying to do?

This is not a forum to discuss *your* products. This is about Apache.
And despite what you say, Kevin's first post was very much a post that
said, "wow! look at how cool our product is! everybody should use this!"
With all those damn CAPITALS, that is exactly what it was. Discussions
in this forum generally don't use the format that he initially posted

Now, you did mention two things:
1) patch ab.c to deal with compressed content. The group here doesn't
care to deal with that, but instead wants to look at bytes/sec rates
rather than pages/sec. If you want to expand ab.c to deal with
decompressing, then PROVIDE PATCHES. Otherwise, shut up.

2) patch ab.c to deal with its argument processing. As noted, this is
probably a good idea. Please provide a patch. And don't just say "fix
this". It doesn't work that way.


Peter J. Cranstone wrote:
> It's not a patch... it's a separate program. Apache was never designed with
> compression in mind, forking and compression do not make for good
> companions, but you already know this.
> As for your other comment. I am simply showing you and your fellow Apache
> users that someone else has achieved a significant performance improvement
> with Apache. Just like the gentleman who uploaded the 10X improvements a
> while back.
> As I've said before if you can show stats which outperform us then great,
> until then our Apache server is looking significantly faster than a standard
> server and even faster than your competitor Zeus. Like it or not,
> compressing a verbose language like HTML and XML makes sense only if you can
> show acceptable performance characteristics. We've done that. No turning
> back now, the exponential growth of the web demands efficient software, if
> you don't do it someone else will.
> This is not a product announcement. The application works, the stats bear
> out the improvements and it runs with Apache and for the time being it is
> not available in stores. When we make a product announcement it will not be
> on this forum.
> Regards,
> Peter J. Cranstone
> -----Original Message-----
> From: []On
> Behalf Of Brian Behlendorf
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:58 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: Apache 164 percent speed increase
> On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter J. Cranstone wrote:
> > We've figured out how to improve the performance of your (the Apache
> group)
> > Apache web server.
> Great.  Patches, please?
> > We are not offering our product on this forum we are showing people
> > what we have achieved.
> Sorry, this is, not
>         Brian

Greg Stein,

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