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From Ryan Bloom <>
Subject Re: Proposal: new CVS module for httpd docs
Date Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:49:03 GMT

Okay.  I think you have convinced me.  Assuming access to the sandbox is
given out VERY liberally, I have no objection to doing this.  Thanks for
all the answers.


On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

> Ryan Bloom wrote:
> > 
> > This all sounds good, but how do people get access to the sandbox?  By
> > submitting patches the usual way, I'm assuming.  Which are reviewed the
> > usual way, and committed when people get around to it.
> No, I would expect that someone would submit a patch, and if
> it looked reasonable, they'd be given access to the sandbox
> and told to apply it themselves.  Maybe a couple of quality patches
> would need to build up first, or maybe just their desire to
> Do Good once would be enough.
> >             Also, with giving people access to the sandbox but not the
> > development repository, we create the situation where people are
> > back-porting somebody else's changes.  I would much rather see the person
> > who origianally made the change move it from the sandbox to the
> > development tree.
> If their patches are good enough (and plentiful enough for
> an adequate feel-good quotient), they're well on the way to
> being able to get access to the development tree.  Otherwise
> it's no different than what we have now.
> > At least now, when somebody commits another person's patch, it is always a
> > complete patch, and it is usually easy to apply it.  I am afraid that the
> > sandbox could REALLY diverge from the development tree
> That's the whole point of the sandbox: it doesn't *have* to
> follow any rules resembling those applicable to the development
> tree.  Its purpose is experimentation and blue-skying.  I
> anticipate stuff going into the sandbox would be doing so
> to test or prove a concept, not to try it out before
> committing it to the development tree.  That last is
> why people check out the development tree and develop stuff
> in their own working directories.
> I don't think I'd be too perturbed to see a commit-list
> of several dozen people on the sandbox.  (Likewise for a
> separate doc module, only more so.)
> -- 
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