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From Dean Gaudet <>
Subject Re: standard virtual hosting.. how good?
Date Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:08:36 GMT
I'm just trying to let things scale, the stat() doesn't scale.  But I
don't feel terribly strongly either way.  I just don't like adding obscure
configuration commands. 


On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> Dean Gaudet wrote:
> > 
> > Keeping it in for -t will screw up people with lots of vhosts as well --
> > -t is used by apachectl before a restart. 
> > 
> > You argued something like "people won't notice the run-time errors" ... 
> > but like... if they're not looking in their logs for run-time errors, do
> > we really care if they don't get a config-time error?  There are some
> > errors we can only report at run-time.  Tough for them.
> > 
> But not having -t do a basic config test as checking DocumentRoot
> is totally bogus. So it's braindead to have -t not do the stat.
> And my point wasn't so much that people won't notice the run time
> errors. They will, eventually. My point was that previous versions
> reported the error immediately when Apache was started.
> I hope you really aren't proposing removing the stat with -t simply
> because it means a delay when someone is using apachectl to
> restart the server? If so then we're saying "instead of rec'ing
> instant feedback that a DocumentRoot is bogus when you start
> Apache and instead of running apache -t to do so to check the
> DocumentRoot isn't bogus, the new procedure is to simply run
> Apache and then immediately look at error_log". That's not tough
> for them, thats stupid on our part. 
> Bogus DocumentRoots are a config-time error. It's easy to check
> at config time, we've been checking it at config time and people
> are most likely using it to check at config time. And we want
> to stop that for what reason again?? Because they should be instead
> looking in error_log and we don't _want_ to provide a real config-time
> test??
> -- 
> ===========================================================================
>    Jim Jagielski   |||   |||
>             "That's no ordinary rabbit... that's the most foul,
>             cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever laid eyes on"

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