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From Dean Gaudet <>
Subject mpm update
Date Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:32:11 GMT
I imported mpm-3 into the apache-2.0 repository (tag mpm-3 if you want

Then I threw in a bunch of my recent email ramblings, because I'm getting
tired of repeating them, mostly off-list to folks who ask "why doesn't
apache do XYZ?"  I intend to be more proactive in this area, because it
can only help. 

Then I ripped up BUFF and broke lots of stuff and put in a first crack at
layering.  Info on that below.

If you check out the tree, and build it (using Configuration.mpm) you
should be able to serve up the top page of the manual, that's all I've
tested so far ;) 


goals? we need an i/o abstraction which has these properties:

- buffered and non-buffered modes

    The buffered mode should look like FILE *.

    The non-buffered mode should look more like read(2)/write(2).

- blocking and non-blocking modes

    The blocking mode is the "easy" mode -- it's what most module writers
    will see.  The non-blocking mode is the "hard" mode, this is where
    module writers wanting to squeeze out some speed will have to play.
    In order to build async/sync hybrid models we need the
    non-blocking i/o abstraction.

- timed reads and writes (for blocking cases)

    This is part of my jihad against asynchronous notification.

- i/o filtering or layering

    Yet another Holy Grail of computing.  But I digress.  These are
    hard when you take into consideration non-blocking i/o -- you have
    to keep lots of state.  I expect our core filters will all support
    non-blocking i/o, well at least the ones I need to make sure we kick
    ass on benchmarks.  A filter can deny a switch to non-blocking mode,
    the server will have to recover gracefully (ha).

- copy-avoidance

    Hey what about zero copy a la IO-Lite?  After having experienced it
    in a production setting I'm no longer convinced of its benefits.
    There is an enormous amount of overhead keeping lists of buffers,
    and reference counts, and cleanup functions, and such which requires
    a lot of tuning to get right.  I think there may be something here,
    but it's not a cakewalk.

    What I do know is that the heuristics I put into apache-1.3 to choose
    writev() at times are almost as good as what you can get from doing
    full zero-copy in the cases we *currently* care about.  To put it
    another way, let's wait another generation to deal with zero copy.

    But sendfile/transmitfile/etc. those are still interesting.

    So instead of listing "zero copy" as a property, I'll list

So far?

- ap_bungetc added
- ap_blookc changed to return the character, rather than take a char *buff
- in theory, errno is always useful on return from a BUFF routine
- ap_bhalfduplex, B_SAFEREAD will be re-implemented using a layer I think
- chunking gone for now, will return as a layer
- ebcdic gone for now... it should be a layer

- ap_iol.h defined, first crack at the layers...

    Step back a second to think on it.  Much like we have fread(3)
    and read(2), I've got a BUFF and an ap_iol abstraction.  An ap_iol
    could use a BUFF if it requires some form of buffering, but many
    won't require buffering... or can do a better job themselves.

    Consider filters such as:
	- ebcdic -> ascii
	- encryption
	- compression
    These all share the property that no matter what, they're going to make
    an extra copy of the data.  In some cases they can do it in place (read)
    or into a fixed buffer... in most cases their buffering requirements
    are different than what BUFF offers.

    Consider a filter such as chunking.  This could actually use the writev
    method to get its job done... depends on the chunks being used.  This
    is where zero-copy would be really nice, but we can get by with a few

    At any rate -- the NSPR folks didn't see any reason to included a
    buffered i/o abstraction on top of their layered i/o abstraction... so
    I feel like I'm not the only one who's thinking this way.

- iol_unix.c implemented... should hold us for a bit

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