Return-Path: Delivered-To: new-httpd-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17057 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:38:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 17033 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:38:25 -0000 Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26920 invoked by uid 66); 23 Apr 1999 21:40:24 -0000 Received: from en by slarti with UUCP; Fri Apr 23 21:40:24 1999 -0000 Received: by en1.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.3+3.2W) for new-httpd@apache.org id XAA58592; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:28:58 +0200 From: "Ralf S. Engelschall" To: new-httpd@apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion: shtool Message-ID: <19990423232858.A58584@engelschall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Engelschall, Germany. X-Web-Homepage: http://www.engelschall.com/ X-PGP-Public-Key: https://www.engelschall.com/ho/rse/pgprse.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 00 C9 21 8E D1 AB 70 37 DD 67 A2 3A 0A 6F 8D A5 Sender: new-httpd-owner@apache.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: new-httpd@apache.org In article <19990423214857.A27826@ans.helios.de> you wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 08:36:34PM +0200, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: >> Exactly, the idea is the same as for libtool: When you need libtool's >> functionality you treat libtool as a black box which is maintained carefully >> externally by the author for all packages. And all a package author does is to >> copy the latest version over to the package from time to time. The same idea I >> follow now with shtool. I'll enhance and maintain in the future and when >> people need "mkdir", "install", "guessos", etc. all they do is to copy over >> the latest shtool version as they do it for libtool and friends. > > I hope that shtool is easier to maintain and debug than libtool, I have > had only bad experiences with libtool. In all the cases where it was > used I had to replace in the Makefiles with some sane command lines to > create shared objects properly. And I found the libtool code itself to > be a nightmare to debug. Hmmm... I'd no problems with libtool. And that you've to adjust your Makefiles is intended, of course. The internals might be a nightmare, ok. But one usually can treat libtool as a black-box, no? Ralf S. Engelschall rse@engelschall.com www.engelschall.com