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From Ben Hyde <>
Subject Re: [PATCH] Support for Mac OS X, some cleanup for Mac OS X Server
Date Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:44:41 GMT
"Ralf S. Engelschall" <> writes:

> In article <> you wrote:
> >> ... A default is a
> >> default and should be the same for all platforms. 
> > 
> > I wonder.  If a user has the thing installed on his
> > machine and he goes and gets a fresh version, as we
> > surely want him to do, the default install should
> > "do the right thing" and I'd argue that's to install
> > in the way the what he has already installed.
> > 
> > Possibly some warning that what is already installed
> > has an unusal layout - I can't see how that would
> > work exactly.
> > 
> > That both redhat and apple are doing this kind of
> > variant layout - well I think we should try to
> > meet them more than half way so the end users upgrades
> > are as easy as possible.
> > 
> > The implementation might be a kludge, but the goal
> > seems entirely admirable.
> Ok, accepted although it doesn't make me personally happy. But then we should
> do a _general_ default adjustments for the layout which not only covers Mac OS
> X. You know, I'm not really against the goal of Apple here. My main
> concern is the inconsistency which occurs by a specific kludge. Either all
> get the same default or we've a general adjustment mechanism which covers
> mainly all platforms. Half-way it will be confusing, I think.
>                                        Ralf S. Engelschall

I'm leaning back the other way now.

It's not ovious what the "right" awnser is.  Clearly it's a 
nightmare if we were to have a different default for every
vendor.  N vendors, N arguments about what's right on that
configuration.  Everytime you talking to a user who's submited
a but the conversation whould have to start with, what layout
did _we_ pick for you?  That's very different than asking
what layout did _you_ choose.   What a mess.

I can't see typical Apple users upgrading at the unix prompt
interface.  Much the way the NT installer diverges from the
standard layout the Apple installer can force the layout
when execs the config script - maybe...

It's weird but maybe the right thing on some platforms is to have the
configure say something like 'Please pick your layout explicitly,
either default, or OSSPECIFIC.' and stop.

I'd like to hear with Fred thinks now.

 - ben

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