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From Randy Terbush <ra...@Covalent.NET>
Subject Re: cvs commit: apache-1.3/src/support Makefile.tmpl
Date Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:24:56 GMT

I was kind of waiting to see more such discussion on this. Ralf and I
have exchanged some patches that will leave naming as is unless a
TARGET has been specified. Is this acceptable?

I'll forward the patch later this afternoon.

Paul Sutton <> writes:
> On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:
> > On 2 Dec 1998, Randy Terbush wrote:
> > > I would prefer to deal with this with some documentation. If we don't
> > > do these two changes, we give them the car without the keys.
> > 
> > There is no way you can deal with this in documentation.  I really do
> > NOT like magically changing the names of things.  That was never 
> > presented as part of this change, and makes it even worse.  
> > 
> > There are things that can use cleaning up, but it is NOT appropriate
> > to do a half-assed job of it and it is really not appropriate to go
> > crazy in 1.3.  Even worse than having two interfaces for doing things is 
> > randomly changing the defaults for no reason.  
> Umm, so now the default httpd.conf contains differences in the configured
> names of the following files:
>    ScoreBoardFile (if used)
>    LockFile (if used)
>    ErrorLog
>    CustomLog
>    RefererLog (if used)
>    AgentLog (if used)
> The ctl script is httpdctl instead of apachectl.
> This is going to be incredibly confusing. If the user hasn't specified a
> different target name with --target then we should ensure that
> _everything_ has the same filename as a previous installation. Otherwise
> there was no point with the recent ./configure changes to put us back to
> the original directory and file layout.
> I think this is a solution to a very minor problem, which is going to
> cause a lot more problems than it will solve.
> > I do not see the problems that warrent a lot of this changing to try 
> > to make things perfect, and do not feel it is appropriate for 1.3.x.
> I agree.
> Paul
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> Paul Sutton, C2Net Europe          
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